Carlsen wins game 9, only needs 1 draw in 3 remaining games
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I'm also really interested to see the impact Carlsen winning the World Championship has on the game's popularity worldwide. He's a very marketable champion, young with good looks and modelling contracts. Both of the former champions, Kramnik and Anand, are obviously very popular in chess circles (and Anand is immensely popular in India), but maintained generally lower profiles in the media.
The next couple of years should be really interesting for chess. My hope as an American is that Nakamura can eventually qualify for the Candidate's Tournament and set up a dream title match down the road.
By the way, Fischer at his peak was 125 points ahead of the second-rated player, Spassky.
Jordan was the best shooting guard in his time.
I think it's quite fair to call Carlsen the Lebron James of chess.
People will always gravitate toward recent greatness being greater than those in the past. But, it's frankly impossible to teller cause we don't have enough context and emotional separation. Being able to say that we saw the greatest ever play is appealing because some of that greatness can then pass over to us by association. It's better to enjoy the greatness we see now and leave the comparisons for history. It is fun to think about though.
[1] I never saw Jordan live, which is something I regret.
Obviously ppg is not the only metric, and championships are won by teams. LeBron is probably in the argument for best all time, and by the end of his career may have a legitimate argument, but he certainly isn't just obviously way better than everyone else. He's probably top 5 though.
In a specifically chosen 8 year period. There were 7 years before that where he didn't win a championship. LeBron's career is far from over, and titles won by a player is surely the least informative measure of an individual player's skill anyhow.
Fwiw Lebron didn't win a championship for his first 8 years. Perhaps he will win the next 6 and make Jordan look pedestrian. He's not there yet though.
Rating difference should be comparable, elo is designed so that a given rating difference is a given probability of beating your opponent.
but, at the same time, it's messy. and comparing the top two players only will probably not be as meaningful as looking at their games and their play.
the interesting question is not that you can be dominant against bad competition, but you can dominate over great competition. I think we can agree on that point.
It is absolutely true that the Elo model is a relative one and does not guarantee that a given rating number represents the same ability over time, but the belief that modern ratings are inflated is not unanimous. Ratings have certainly gone up over time, but computer analyses of games have indicated that intrinsic play quality has gone up over time as well. See the work of Ken Regan, for example (search for "ken regan ipr").
However, of course the Elo model might not be perfect, and thus a lot of other things contribute into the rating difference of players A and B, not only the expected result of the players playing only against each other.
The difference between Elo and Bradley-Terry is that Bradley-Terry assumes to have "all" the data. So Bradley Terry is used in Psychology studies for that reason. (Eventually, you stop taking data).
Elo on the other hand, is mathematically equivalent to Bradley-Terry except with infinite data. Elo allows you to incrementally "add data" to an existing Bradley-Terry-esque model and make it more accurate.
BTW: Elo has been superceeded by superior models today, but all (good) ranking models are "interval properties" that have been derived from the Bradley Terry model from Psychology research.
See TrueSkill (which is based on Gaussian Curves, so they aren't technically Bradley-Terry but instead the Thurstone scale), Glicko, and Glicko2.
I would imagine many psychology studies are measuring something a great deal less well defined and more multidimensional in practice than "A will beat B at chess."
More databases, more games played, internet giving opportunity to play many, many more games. Programs to analyze their play, coaching in the modern era, etc.
That is something that Anand didn't really benefit from when he was young.
I'm not saying Carlsen is the greatest ever. I'm just saying comparisons are totally valid.
[1] http://en.chessbase.com/post/the-greatest-che-player-of-all-... [2] http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=52948
If you review his games over time, you'll noticed he's become a much more balanced player, capable of playing both extremely dangerous and tactical positions filled with traps, but also more quiet positions that aren't as sharp, but rich with strategic possibilities.
Many players tend to lean towards a specific "style" of play, but Carlsen has a rare gift to be able to adapt a variety of styles depending on his position and opponent.
strategical: I wonder if I can machinate to end up mostly on white squares by the end-game, then I could let his black bishop take this pawn for free, while I work on getting my pawn structure to become invincible on the other side, effectively nullifying his bishop by the end-game while opening my position for greater pressure.
tactical: how can I protect this pawn, together with the rest of my pieces, so that all lines in the next 15 moves have all pieces protected, so that he can't take anything, and defensive enough that he can't force a 'better position' in any of them, while remaining offensive enough to open up for a future attack.
Strategic play is much more subtle, but becomes more important as you get stronger. Strategic play generally involves more long term planning with the goal of creating a lasting advantage for yourself. Some examples of strategic concepts are creating more space for yourself (and at the same time constricting your opponent), having a better pawn structure (e.g your opponents pawns are isolated and vulnerable to attack), having your minor pieces better positioned(e.g your bishops rake open diagonals while your opponent's are trapped behind pawns)
Tactics - winning pieces or losing fewer than your opponent
Strategy - putting yourself in a position where the above is more likely to happen or be possible
?Strategery: knowing what to do when there's nothing obvious to do, aka vision, planning.
this is a good example of both tactics and positional play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEcRQXN2dbg
IE - Knowing your opponent is aggressive with their queen and having plans in place to quickly neutralize her, or being good at manipulating your opponents pieces util it gets to a point where you can gain a strong advantage by castling.
All these objectives form the basis of what you're trying to accomplish with the ideal being that successfully executing your major objectives will gain you victory.
Tactics refers to how well one reacts to and overcomes changes on the board.
IE - Based on the current board layout you notice that a certain move(s) will heavily fortify a section of the board that you previously were not focused on, or seeing your opponent set up for a particular pattern of play you feint a reaction only to hit them somewhere else.
As a tactical player he focuses more on evolving his strategy(larger objectives) to fit the board rather than trying to manipulate the board to fit his strategy more so than the average chess player.
Strategy concerns more of theoretical ideas, long term possibilities. 10+ moves ahead. This involves pawn structure, where your king is positioned, how your pieces are developed, which side of the board left or right you might launch an attack, end game considerations, etc. How you intend to defend or win the game. This type of play is usually called positional. Whereby the placement of your pieces gives you an overall advantage. In GM level play this is very subtle and 15+ moves ahead. Positional vs. tactical.
As an analogy tactics are like cobra strikes and positional play is like a boa constrictor where tiny shifts strangle the opponent in the end. Both are lethal.
[1] http://tcec.chessdom.com/ [2] http://tests.stockfishchess.org/
I was a high school player and used to mess around with Rybka, but I haven't looked into computer chess in years.
Even more interestingly, what would a match between two open-source engines look like, if they both embedded each other?
http://lesswrong.com/lw/itp/meetup_talk_by_eliezer_yudkowsky...
Some commentary by Scott Aaronson:
http://chennai2013.fide.com/anand-carlsen-video-with-comment...
I was watching this feed live to see the players, but for audio I was over at http://www.twitch.tv/chessnetwork . Jerry from chessnetwork did a wonderful job of breaking it all down as it was happening. In general, his Chess YouTube channel over here http://www.youtube.com/chessnetwork is awesome.
The commentator then asks Anand something along the lines of "did you think through all of these complications?" and his response was a curt "no, I was thinking of what to eat tonight."
"Yeah… so, do we have questions to the players?"
oof... such high stakes and he just missed the move. Really gotta feel for him.
I was up at 5am to watch that. Embarrassing. Other great players (e.g. Kramnik) have lost tough matches with a lot more class.
I can understand being frustrated by that question. Reporters for a chess championship should be more understanding of what it's like to play a tough match.
The question was "did you try really to calculate [...]?" which is quite a bit different that "did you think through all of [...]?". The latter is implicitly asking if perhaps he was not successful at seeing through the variations (which is a reasonable question). The former is asking if he even tried, which is not a good question.
He had come out of the opening with a significant lead in time, and near the end he spent a very long time thinking, so much that he became behind on time. Of course he was calculating variations. It is quite reasonable for him to give a snippy answer to that question.
I'm not really a chess player, but I've watched all the matches this Championship, and all my friends (not chessplayers as well) are watching. It helps that we are Norwegian, though. And that may be the point: A western player will bring back the popularity in the west.
With the right backing, chess can definitely be as popular as poker. Big-money TV poker is very much a modern creation. Even big-money basketball is a "creation," not a founding plank of US culture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Richards_(Scrabble)
Winning 4 national championships in a row is one of the most amazingly dominant feats in anything, especially given a game that has a significant luck factor.
A top tournament player in a Scrabble Facebook group just said this about him:
"I'm pretty sure what he's doing is not capable by most human brains tbh, he plays better than any computer with seemingly a very small amount of tilt. You will never be as good as him, no matter how hard you try. Makes the game pointless (said this a million times b4). As a sidenote, his existence in scrabble is terrible for the game"
he was also the highest-rated player in the world for a while, even though he never actually won a world championship. check out his tournament record: [http://www.cross-tables.com/results.php?p=6670][http://www.w....
note in particular that he had a 24-12 record against nigel across 13 tournaments: http://www.wespa.org/aardvark/cgi-bin/headmini.cgi?name1=Gan...
(anecdotally, as a 1700-rated player there are lots of people who can beat me handily, but nigel and ganesh are the only two i've ever felt actually intimidated by)
First I thought, it was to make Carlsen loose his nerve, but he lost his own nerve, by moving Qe4, instead of slow push hh4. That was the turning point :( He went from winning position to a clear loss.
Also, I don't get the point of resigning, on this level, it should be a fight till the end, no matter how shameful.
So honestly I think it makes everyone look good.
Others will resign very prematurely and they say so. They say they just didn't "feel" the position. Computer analysis later on says they are equal in position, though.
He'd be in the tournaments, it would just be a waste of time for him to play out all the games, when he is certain to lose. instead, he resigns and relaxes his mind and winds down before the next game.
I think that if Carlsen had started out in life being a brat, he wouldn't have got much support to get to where he is today. Besides, other players are not Carlsen. E.g. Topalov seems to receive fewer invites than other comparable players. Could it be because of his (and his manager's) abominable behavior during two WC matches?
It doesn't make him popular, it wastes the time of the opponents who have to sit around for an extra half hour and we even have to warn visiting players to expect it. His opponents will sometimes create 3 Queens or similar just to make him look stupid.
If you get a reputation then others will start to treat you like an idiot. Eg one strong player recently played out the full 50 moves of K+R vs K+N against another strong player, possibly to "punish" past behavior.
At high levels of play, continuing to play implies that you think you have some chance of winning and that it is therefore worth both players' time to continue the game. If you know you shouldn't win, you are either implying that your opponent may make a stupid mistake that would let you win (an insult to their ability) or you are assuming a right to their time for the mere formality of finishing the game.
At a low or mid level of play, it might even make sense to say that you know you should resign, but you'd like to play it out to see just how the checkmate happens and thus learn more about the game (and giving your opponent that chance to take the resignation rather than assuming you may have their time), but no one is going to learn anything from playing out a losing position at this level of play.
Carlsen played on, grinding, and a few non-optimal (not blunders) from Anand, and Carlsen won. Today it was a clear win, so I agree shaking the hand and end the game was right. But not always.
Oh, and since you asked about books, here are two books that came to mind and are pretty good (and you can go through them in this order): Winning Chess Tactics by Seirawan Winning Chess Tactics for Juniors by Lou Hays
Oh, and don't mind the 'Winning' in both titles. You'll lose plenty of games right now :-)
For endgames I recommend Silman's Complete Endgame Course.
For the middle game, practice a lot, and do a lot of chess problems (there are apps that contain thousands of tactical chess problems).
After a while you will start to see how the opening leads into the midgame leads into the endgame.
As far as videos, ChessNetwork on YouTube is a great channel and the guy who runs it offers great insight and plays a LOT.
For books, I started out by reading a few books by Yasser Seirawan. Two titles I particularly found helpful are "Winning Chess Strategies" and "Winning Chess Tactics". Seirawan is a good writer and both titles do a really good job explaining their concepts to players new to the game. Jeremy Silman wrote a book called "The Amateur's Mind" which I thought was pretty good, that compares thought processes between amateurs, intermediate, and expert level players across similar positions.
One other idea is to simply get a book that is a collection of annotated master/grandmaster games, set up a board, make some coffee, and replay through them. Review the authors notes. Replay them again. Get a sense for the openings being used and the different strategies. Two good collections are "The Mammoth Book of Greatest Chess Games" by Burgess and "The Most Instructive Chess Games Played" (can't remember author).
Chess.com is a great free place to play. They have free tournaments and games online, you can get a rating, track your progress, etc. If you do a paid membership, you get access to videos, tutorials etc. I just use the free membership, so I can't comment as to how good these videos are, but at least to me they look solid.
Good luck. Happy to help more offline (maybe trade for poker tips :) )
Once you get a good handle on that, analyzing your own games and reviewing GM games starts to become helpful.
http://www.amazon.com/My-System-21st-Century-Edition/dp/1880...
Tactics!
It is a great book and without it I would have struggled to reach FM, but it is a little bit too advanced for a first book. I'd say it is a good 4th or 5th book.
I'd say something like Lasker's manual of chess would be better suited as a first book. Perhaps one of the other starter's volumes from Seirawan, et al would fit the bill.
There are other tactics servers on the web (chess.com, chess.emrald.net), but Chess Tempo is easily the best.
chesstempo is a great resource that I completely forgot about. Thanks for bringing it up.
1] Develop a good thought process and general approach to the game. NM Dan Heisman has an excellent series of articles ('The Thinking Cap', 'Novice Nook' and others). Find his stuff and study it well.
2] Tactics, tactics, tactics! chesstempo.com is my favourite place for tactics problems. Make an account there and play regularly; you'll see a huge and rapid improvement in your game. There are many great books that cover this ground as well.
3] Play regularly at reasonably slow time controls (necessary to utilize and internalize the proper thought process), mainly against players who are slightly better than you are. FICS or ICC are great places to play online (humans, unlike chess engines, will not allow you to take back your mistakes, which tends to focus the mind!).
4] Analyze your games. Ideally you'll have a stronger human to help you with this, otherwise get a strong chess engine. Identify your major tactical blunders and remember the patterns so you can avoid making the same mistakes in future.
5] Go through annotated games of the strongest grandmasters. There are lots of collections available. Good ones for starters are Morphy, Marshall, Spielmann, Alekhine, Tal and Kasparov (highly tactical players).
6] You can also find GM games where one player resigned. Take the winning side and finish the game against a chess engine on its highest strength. See if you can convert the win.
7] Now you can read a bit more about strategy, openings, etc. Try to play openings that lead to open, tactical positions (forget about whatever the latest fashions amongst grandmasters are). Excellent choices are the various gambits, and ancient openings like the Spanish, Italian, etc.
Good luck and have fun!
Welcome Magnus, you are a prodigy. A real one.
But sometimes people go through rough times. It happens, people don't stay in form and the added pressure of the event makes people more desperate and to act in urgency. Big blunders happen in such situations. This isn't just restricted to chess. In nearly walk of life this happens.
I know some very brilliant people who make silly mistakes during urgent production issues.
We are humans after all. And we make mistakes.
Since internet commentary is always interpreted with a negative tone, I'll edit to add: Anand is a fascinating personality and very sympathetic. I hoped he'd score 1 point today :-)
As an Indian, and someone who practically looks at Anand as a role mode. I would be disappointed if Anand really had that attitude.
Frankly speaking, I don't like the 'naturally talented' or 'natural genius' or this whole belief that people are born with some skills that can't be matched by other people. This isn't just about chess. This sort of thing manifests in every other walk of life.
Most kids just resign to be incapable at math due to constant comparison with other kids. Though I they would do far better if only they were motivated enough to put more effort.
I think you will enjoy reading the book Mindset. It's for parents, and it explores and expands on the very idea you have described ... which is the opposite of how every Indian parent thinks, so the total addressable market for the book is a big one!
See the age distribution of the top players in the world here (last column): http://2700chess.com/
Chess will never be the same again.
What i mean is that a huge majority of gifted athletes will not be going into track and field. The best athletes aren't pro runners. I'm not saying that there aren't great runners who are athletes, just that soccer, and basketball will be taking a lot of the talent away from track.
Same is true of chess. Best gameplayers are not deciding to go into chess. It is a very minor game, like rugby. I would even think that Poker has more strategic talent than Chess does.
When exactly does someone like a Carlsen (Norway) or Anand (India), as "gameplayers", choose to go into a different game than chess?
As an example, I used to play chess when I was younger. Plenty of people later took up things like poker and starcraft, and a few became quite successful at it. These people were generally not the best chess players, instead they were more likely to be average / slightly above average (for being serious club players) in chess.
Today, the game is poker.
It appears that NL is close to falling too, if it hasn't already: http://www.pokersnowie.com/
Furthermmore, known bots have been winning at mid-high stakes from at least a few years, and have taken millions from online poker rooms.
Lots of discussion about pokersnowie here: http://www.deucescracked.com/forums/131-Poker-Theory/topics/...
Most of the experts agree that it's very strong.
Human competition is about humans competing against each other. Machines, computers or animals being better than humans doesn’t really figure into it.