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Comment by tomasien | Hacker News Reader

jdoliner's comment is a good reminder to forget the haters

Just because someone expresses skepticism that makes them a hater?

Skepticism is different from hating, absolutely, but the user didn't say they were skeptical - they said there was "no way". That's hating and you have to ignore it - skepticism and critical feedback you value, treasure, and seek out.

It's a just a firm opinion.

No, it's a haters opinion. Being a hater doesn't make you a terrible person or mean you can't or shouldn't be allowed to have opinions, it just means you're a hater and your opinions should be ignored.

Still doesn't make them a hater, at least not from the way I would use the term. A "doubter" maybe. By your definition all the Dragons Den are haters, because they say no way?

Regardless, i'm sure if you looked through anybody's comments in HN (including your own) then there is bound to be one that dismisses the next best thing as "no way this will work". Difference here, it's on a post with only 2 comments. If this had made it to the frontpage of HN then that comment would have been buried so deep no one would have batted an eye-lid.

skepticism and critical inquiry is different than dismissal

And dismissal is different from hating, at least from my understanding of the word used in this context.

I am struggling to come up with a different definition for hating than just dismissal. What do you call it when you don't try to think about how something could change to work or be better, and instead just say thats dumb. Sounds like hating to me. How else can it be defined?

I'd call that pessimism. Or life. But not hating.

Urban dictionary definition of hater: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hater

A person that simply cannot be happy for another person's success. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person.

Hating, the result of being a hater, is not exactly jealousy. The hater doesnt really want to be the person he or she hates, rather the hater wants to knock somelse down a notch.

I don't think his comments are really to do with not being happy about a persons success etc, it's nothing personal, he simply did not believe the idea would take off.

Amen to that!

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