Everyone keeps on talking about how it's impossible for a currency to keep rising like this and have it be useful for commerce, and to some extent I agree. I, however, have started to see the Bitcoin price as the cost of a share into a new world-wide equivalent of the Federal Reserve.
There will only ever be 21 million shares of ownership issued, and I purchased some just to see what happens. It's kind of exciting to me
That's kind of how BTC has been since I've been sort of paying attention to it -- it acts a lot like a stock.
Cryptolocker victims?
Symantec estimates that 3% of people that are infected choose to pay [0]. So what fraction of that pay in bitcoins?
[0] http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/oct/19/cryptolocker-at...
I'd also like to know who is buying IN at this point. Anyone on HN have some insight?
TL:DR bitcoin always went through successively larger bubbles. Without very hard evidence I would believe that current price is result of bubble as well. Also, is there a reliable way to short bitcoins?
People say the Chinese market is driving the LTC prices up. And LTC is not even on MtGox. Imagine how much the prices might go up when it will. :)
Assuming you've bought some yourself, where would you recommend buying?
I'd also like to know who is buying IN at this point.
People who think bitcoin has >2% chance of becoming a major world currency? http://www.jefftk.com/p/bitcoin-exchange-rate-as-a-predictio...PS: you already made your investment back. Keep 0.5 BTC for the long term. Those who sold at the first bubble at $30 regret it. Those who sold at the second bubble at $270 regret it too. Those who sell during this third bubble at ~$700 will regret it too.
Is that to say that its price is infinite? I mean, at some point, someone will not regret it right?
BTW, I am one who regrets selling at $297 just last week (even though I saw a 3x return), so I don't quibble with that. And, had I held on to it, I likely wouldn't sell now, given its trajectory. My idea was to take profits, let it plummet (as it has before), then get back in. Problem was, it just kept running after I sold it!
So, the challenge is we just don't know where it's going. To say someone who sells now will regret it is dicey at best. As much as I think I agree with you, it's anybody's guess.
TL;DR - 1BTC is not quite infinite, but assuming the bitcoin economy becomes established and grows to a reasonable size, 1BTC today will be a small fortune in just a few more years (possibly sooner, but that'd be due to hype, IMO, rather than real value as a currency).
But with all these disclaimers in mind, I would say I estimate the worth of Bitcoin to be roughly the size of the remittance market, or the gold market, and possibly bigger. So I would say at the very least $100 to $1,000 billion. Divide by the maximum theoretical limit of 21 million bitcoins. That gives a worth of at the very least $5,000 to $50,000 to each bitcoin.
Current demand (presumably resulting from its recent traction in China) is insane. Price is marching straight up and to the right even as I type this.
So, looks like the demand from new entrants is establishing at least a new range. Barring some horrible news, it's becoming difficult to see the sharp drop we've seen before. But, I guess that depends on how you look at it: The new entrants are either feeding the bubble or they're actually transferring wealth into BTC for the longer term. This article suggests the latter:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6756614
EDIT: In addition, there seems to be a momentum building around BTC with Senate hearings today, more recent VC activity, and more media coverage, etc. I'm wondering if we're seeing a threshold-crossing here, and we'll look back to see this as the moment when BTC's future as a real alternative currency was sealed.
Like what? Will the other currencies ever catch up with BTC? What's the probability of this happening? Wouldn't BTC just become the standard, given it's acceptance?
Now will it be sustainable and the price will keep increasing at a slower pace and make bitcoin a "solid" currency that people will want to use for other purposes than speculation or will it crash and burn like it already did in the past...
Investing in bitcoin right now is nothing more than gambling. You may win big but you may also lose everything. I don't like to play with money so I chose to remain a curious bystander.