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Looks pretty wasteful. I prefer how it currently looks on my machine:

http://i.imgur.com/PvlTZ3k.png

My tabs can get as small as the pinned ones on the left (which is the default behavior of every other browser).

There used to be a about:config setting for minimum tab width, but one(!) Firefox developer decided to remove it, because:

"Users can override this using userChrome.css if they absolutely want it. I don't think the prefs are worth it."[1]

Now I have to use a custom user chrome CSS file and disable the tab animations to get the same effect.

I really hope this pointless update won't make me jump through a dozen hoops again. I'm tired of it.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=574654

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Going to have to concur here. Unfortunately it appears that Australis presently isn't targeting those who change their userchrome whether by addon or directly.

I think the design looks good, I just hope that it will be given the same amount of customization freedom Firefox enjoys pre-Australis.

My Nightly: http://i.imgur.com/1oPRtU2.png

I expect significant breakage tomorrow / later today.

Australis displays at least 17 tabs before expanding into the tab-scroll view when full screen, which is more than I'd typically have open at a time anyway.

http://i.imgur.com/8JIwdgh.jpg

Tab-scoll, to me, makes a lot of sense as it prevents any confusion over the content of the tabs, especially when those tabs lack favicons: in Chrome, you simply get a blank page icon when the scroll bar overflows.

The only downside to Australis for me so far has been the removal of the "thin" address bars/small icon sets, there is no longer an option within Firefox to enable them, as far as I know.

> the removal of the "thin" address bars/small icon sets

Oh, man. :/

To be honest, I prefer having a scrolling tab pane, instead of tabs getting so small you can't read their text (I have quite a few tabs open). It should definitely be a user config option though.

You might also want to look into Stylish, this is a firefox addon that allows you to add custom CSS, and apply it without restarting.

I also use a very minimal setup (http://imgur.com/NoCafoH).

On OSX, Australis will actually be thinner (once they fix https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=938985) because the window buttons are now on the same level as the tabs.

Firefox 25 is currently quite good (with Pentadactyl I hide the address and search bar altogether) http://imgur.com/pSzvcAi

This update will make it worse it seems and waste more vertical space (apart from the really ugly aliased curved tabs).

Checkout the pentadactyl plugin "buftabs" for maximum vertical space and a friendly tab bar: http://www.leighbicknell.com/pentadactyl-setup/

Thanks. I don't know this existed. Can you control the width of the tabs? Right now the URL in the tab is clipped, which can be dangerous and makes you susceptible to fishing attacks when you browse casually.

I could never get used to not having an address bar. I'm jealous.

The good news is that if you don't like the new look of firefox, you don't need to see it: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemer...

You still have "an address" bar. You type `o` and start typing to search for history, bookmarks or enter new URL all in unified list. Usually a few chars + TAB is enough. This unified list pops from the bottom of the browser window and it respects your color scheme as well.

Of course there is `s` command to search any of your installed search providers and you can do all of this in new tab, window etc.

Pentadactyl is what keeps me using Firefox. When that stops working, it will take me back to stone age when it comes to speed of navigating and researching content online.

I agree on this old UI failure...I thought for a moment it had been reverted, but then realized I had installed the Custom Tab Width add-on. The realization brought me back to my own extreme frustration with coming back to Firefox and finding this behavior being the default and not easily changed.

I'm generally OK with a lot of stuff being in add-ons. But, this one is not one of those things. I really don't think I should have to install a plugin to decide not to have a scrolling tab bar (I hate the scrolling tab bar).

And I don't mind it! Truly, I don't really care about a scrolling tab bar or not. I do hate how Safari handles it though... My point is that Firefox is great in that you can at least fix that! I've yet to find a way in Safari :'(

Well, I have tiny tabs and I just updated. The active tab obscures the favicons of the ones next to it, and the lines between tabs are in the wrong spot. But it works.

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