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joday.com

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Millions of videos are uploaded to internet every minute.

joday.com makes it easy to find entertainment you like based on your likes, location, profile, network and other trending signals on internet. It's your entertainment concierge.

I need feedback, please suggest

thanks, joday.com

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I'm usually pretty generous with Facebook login and I find the paranoia surrounding it ridiculous, but when your site posted directly to my wall THE MOMENT I SIGNED UP without any kind of notice, I was fucking incensed. Not only was it unsolicited, it was spam that offered no compelling content except a link to your site. It doesn't help that you have no option for turning this permission off.

Out of hundreds of facebook logins, Joday.com was the first site I manually removed from my account.

F- not visiting again.

Hi,

1. One of the reason for using Facebook login was to allow user to decide what information they want to share including permission to share on user wall. 2. having said that, we will try to find a way to make it more explicit. 3. email us if you want to remove your a/c from joday.

thanks,

I regularly give apps permission to post on my wall, because almost every app will ask me before posting. In addition, the posts usually contain relevant content: spotify posts songs I listen to, goodreads posts book updates. Your app posted an advertisement to my wall without any prompting. This is so inappropriate (and speaking from experience, far from the most effective way to use your fb access), it bewilders me your startup thought this was a good idea.

Currently, we post on wall for #1. when user join, as you can imagine the algorithm would not have much relevant data about user and to get user started it put random but definitely a trending/popular video. #2. when user share a video on joday by clicking share button.

brining relavant content is probably the most difficult problem and its never guaranteed to be accurate... our goal is to fail fast, learn from user behavior to serve more relevant next time...

The text is mangled for me both in firefox and chrome. For some reason it looks okay in chrome incognito mode. It appears like this even with all extensions disabled.

"100_hours_of_videos_are_uploded_to_youtube_every_minute! which_one_would_you_atch?"

most likely due to adblock, I will try to reproduce it and fix. thanks for you help,

what did you think about the site and concept?

There is actually nothing here other than a Facebook login and a static list of videos, right? I mean, I got a Justin Bieber video.

no. once login there is a playlist of videos... over the time playlist becomes smarter based on your like, location, network and other trending signals on internet.... it also learns from user behavior and watch pattern...

you should see a lot more videos.. can you retry...

1. It looks absolutely wrecked on Chrome with ghostery/adblock installed [ http://imgur.com/gQfalwN ].

2. Not going to sign up using facebook.

Generally speaking I won't use a "login with facebook" option, but I will do it if there is a compelling reason. Your website has absolutely no good information about your product or what I might expect to happen after I log in, aside from a generic/broad mission statement.

Regardless of your authentication options, I'm not going to try a service that I can't find any real information about.

our goal was to keep login page simple enough to keep but if its not getting the message out, its definitely not rite... something we will think about.. thanks...

Looks really interesting. I love Pandora and having seen this I realize I really want Pandora for video. Would be great to have more Pandora like features -- specifically, videos recommended based on likes/dislikes of other videos, and being able to view videos without any past information. You could do this, for example, by showing popular videos for people who haven't logged in, and then customizing from there.

it does that already... algorithm gets smarted over time... initially its mostly wisdom of crowd and could be a lot hit and miss....

First impressions: the background image that took ~20 seconds to load - with white text on a white background that slowly revealed - it felt a little like 56k internet and I nearly left the page. I'd consider setting an alternative background colour behind the image?

Yes that image is heavy, I've converted it to png compressed but still not good... I will surely check it out...

what did you think about the site in general and concept?

I dont like being forced to log in with Facebook.

Also typo on the front page: uploded -> uploaded :)

Thanks @cowls.

My reasons for forcing Facebook login is to know more about my user in order to serve the relevant/personalize content. It's a chicken/egg situation...

I believe people would be less turned off if you showed them a glimpse of what's behind that wall, a pretty picture of a lake tells me NOTHING at all, even a screenshot (slightly blurred if you want) would go a long way towards letting me decide if it would be worth signing in. As it stands now the default reaction is 'nothing to see here, move along'.

hmmm... sure, I will a/b test out that...

Here's a small criticism: "uploaded to internet" is not cromulent

It was initially, "uploaded to youtube"

It was from a youtube statistics at, http://www.youtube.com/yt/press/statistics.html

Hi,

Thank you all for trying joday.com and giving us valuable feedback. We have stopped our services to send emails, wall post etc. to all joday members until the next version to fix all open issues and incorporate your suggestions. Please understand, we have started working on fix.

I hope you will understand the limitations of prototype and give us a chance to improve in future.

Thanks, joday team.

- Yeah I second that. I think the app will be nice, but I dont like being forced to log in with facebook neither. Can people just sign up?

My reasons for forcing Facebook login is to know more about my user in order to serve the relevant/personalize content. It's a chicken/egg situation... how to get around it?

I would suggest you simply ask the user for the information you need in order to give them something, then offer facebook as a simpler way to give them that.

I mean, if you are getting access to their FB accounts to see what they like, why not put 5 input boxes down the left side with something like "Name your 5 most favourite things" with a submit button.

On the right have something like: "Or sign in with facebook and save some time!"

If they like what they get with the inputs on the left, they are more likely to give you access to their facebook data to enjoy the experience more.

- Im also interested in learning what machine algorithm you used.

It's a heavily modified Barnes–Hut for clustering, lot of coding in python... used a lil bit of Levenshtein distance too.. alto is 20% of what I want to achieve but need to know if the concept has audience.

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