Comcast is donating to defeat mayor who is bringing gigabit fiber to Seattle
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I currently live near the top of the hill of Queen Anne, my options for internet are Comcast, or Comcast essentially. Century link is also up there with a plan for a whopping 7mbps of speed down and less than 1mbps up. Comcast offers a plan for 50mbps down and 10mbps up, I need more upload speed, but I can make do with an upload running for hours a day. This wouldn't be bad if Comcast actually worked, but it doesn't. Probably 2 or 3 nights a week my internet becomes near unusable during peak times, I resort to putting my cell phone on LTE and seeing what I need to that way, I can't even keep up with the buffer rate on the lowest quality Youtube videos.
Downtown though, there are a number of apartment and condo buildings that offer 100mbps up & down internet for $60 a month (compared to my $75 for Comcast), or 1gigabit up and down for $120 a month(not available from Comcast at all). So, we do have some gigabit internet, and I've actually found a few places I'd consider living and likely will affect my decision when I eventually move.
At least in my neighborhood, Comcast has terrible(often broken) service with absolutely no alternative. I suppose maybe the density of Queen Anne can't justify the cost of gigabit fiber to the top of the hill, but given how many Microsoft and Amazon people live up here I'd be shocked if there weren't huge interest. This seems damning as to the economic viability of fiber that a relatively dense upper income neighborhood can't get fiber without government subsidy.
Luckily, I can get the 40Mbps down and 20Mbps up from CenturyLink. Other than having to wait a month for them to turn it on, it has been rock solid. Even during peak times I have no issues with speed.
Like you, my lease is up in a few months. I'm going to try to move to one of the Gigabit areas...
In other words, yet another reason fiber to the premises is superior.
I assume the problem is that either your building or much of the housing around you is relatively old. CondoInternet only has offerings in places that have been fully wired with ethernet already, as far as I can tell.
I'd been a Comcast user for ~10 years before getting fed up with them. At my last place, they started hiking the price every two months after six months. When I canceled I was paying ~$100 for internet and cable tv (which I never used or wanted, although apparently it made my service cheaper). It seems that they REALLY want to keep their TV subscriber numbers up.
Interestingly, CondoInternet uses microwave links to connect the buildings they service. They do install in older buildings without CAT5e/CAT6 wiring, but they have to use vDSL over the phone lines. They still call it 100mbit although it's more like 70 or 80.
People/entities can donate to Super PACs that cannot donate to candidates, but that's because Super PACs -- or "independent-expenditure only committees" -- are not controlled by and do not coordinate with candidates
http://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/1ox3gd/my_name_is_m...
The aims of corporations are often dead-set against the wishes of affected citizenry, the company's employees, sometimes even the corporate executives (wearing their "private citizen" hats).
Stop all corporations and non-person entities from contributing to political campaigns! Stop unions! Stop the Sierra Club!
Still with me?
Are we down to allowing only individual citizen donations to political parties?
Corporations don't represent the best interest of their stakeholders (employees etc), but the narrow interest of their shareholders in a competitive marketplace where shareholders are only looking for one thing. In other words, it is not the job of a company to do what its employees find most pleasing.
Whatever their interests are, I'm certainly not knee-jerked opposed to them since I like their products and I like the effects that companies with good products provide to the economy.
At very least I think that corporations serve as a contrast to the inordinate megaphone that politicians, celebrities, and the mainstream media have.
Really, I don't think that the protestations against corporations contributing to the political process are all that well thought-out. Should Michael Moore no longer be allowed to make his documentaries? They're blatant political commercials. How about Sean Penn? Should he be muzzled from being a political spokesperson since he has such an inordinate amount of influence vs an individual citizen?
How about news organizations? Every single one out there has some sort of political bias. Should they be allowed to blatantly support political parties and candidates?
1. I'm a business student. I'm founding a company. I'm not opposed to corporations either. Just their involvement in politics.
2. Michael Moore and Sean Penn are individuals, not corporations. I support the right of the Koch brothers to speak out, though I don't much like what they have to say. I don't support the right of their corporation to pay to be heard on political matters.
3. It's paid advertising that I'm opposed to; corporations can make documentaries all day long if they want to, it's paying to have people watch them that I have a problem with.
4. Newspapers can blatantly support political parties and candidates. People choose to read them if they wish; they don't find them embedded in other content as paid advertising.
EDIT: in response to the below, see my post above (GP).
All I can now determine is that you just don't like the politics of many corporations and want them to be muzzled.
I don't agree with Comcast's position here, but I think they should be allowed to be heard if they want to be. Democratic societies are strong because they're made up of a lot of strong non-governmental institutions and groups, not just an all-powerful government and powerless individuals.
So, you are saying if corporations are allowed to advertise, they won't hire lobbyists?
(Not that marketing to the public is any less bribery or more trying to convince people than lobbying is, the only difference between the two is the universe of people being targeted for bribery/convincing.)
Unions aren't exactly geared toward the best interest of its members either, even though they pretend to be.
I'd be a lot happier if no one could donate at all. But I also think price signaling is bullshit, so probably better not to listen to me.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United#Opinions_of_th...
People are somehow okay when the monopoly is government, even though time and time again government does a piss-poor job when given control.
Competition doesn't work so well for infrastructure because it's both essential and it has a high physical barrier to entry. Private corporations exist to increase profit, and that means paying employees less and lowering consumer value. Municipal broadband is making citizens happier than Comcast, Time Warner, etc.
... 90% of whom don't care if the product is any good or not.
In each case, additional competitors would increase average total costs for services by lowering economies of scale. But there's a far more significant characteristic: there's no differentiation between services. Combined with their being natural monopolies, you have the primary reasons for their status as government-granted monopolies.
Broadband services, on the other hand, have seen an explosion in product differentiation. We're using one word, but what we're actually referring to are a variety of separate services with significant differences (speed, quality, manner of delivery, etc.) that offer different degrees of utility relative to each other. Whether a municipality grants exclusive or even just preferential rights to a provider, the end result is that the service provided is isolated from competitive forces outside the service region.
Even if Google Fiber is in the next town over and offering an indisputably better quality service (such as endless speed and a free magical Genie with every install, wishes included), it has no consequence on the service available in your town.
That's one of the sticking points when you're dealing with coercive monopolies. When you're talking about other utilities, the negative consequences of that coercion (in an economic sense and not the pejorative) pale by comparison to the efficiencies stemming from lower production costs. The analysis for broadband, however, isn't nearly as static.
Municipal broadband certainly isn't a silver-bullet. Some have knocked their rollouts out of the park; others have bungled them. But dx4100 is missing the point by comparing municipal broadband to private firms. The status quo doesn't consist of competitive markets; it's a collection of non-contestable markets. When entry to the field is effectively closed with no competitive forces, municipal broadband and other alternative ideas represent some of the only real options available to us.
In other words, what a sad little fucked up situation we have on our hands.
Ex: In Georgia if you have a gas line to your house you can purchase gas from any gas provider in the state. This style of legislation is probably more inline with what the constituents want than the municipally owned solution or the single provider solution.
What's important is that this fiber infrastructure will compete directly against Comcast, and Comcast is working hard to eliminate or at least hamper that potential competition in order to maintain the status quo of their oligopoly.
It is an incredibly bad thing for the City for Comcast to be doing this, because it's not in the Public's interest. Increased competition, however, is in the Public's interest.
Considering it doesn't exist yet, you cannot really call it a monopoly. Thanks for confirming that you consider Comcast one though.
> even though time and time again government does a piss-poor job when given control.
You are correct there, the government's control over internet service has enabled a few mammoth carriers to become monopoly's of their realm. Be it for 'national security' interests like AT&T or be it piles of lobbyist money from Comcast.
The end result is no competition amongst peers. The only thing coming close would be companies that lease off of Comcast trying to sell packages at a lower cost. This of course doesn't last long since AT&T Comcast and others worked out exactly how to kill leased operators at will subsidizing rates in areas leasers operate to remove any profit potential from the competition that was forced to buy from Comcast anyways.
But complain about an operator that doesn't exist yet like it is a monopoly. Blame them for things they have not done yet. Try to push forward the fantasy that Comcast has a quality of service beyond destroying other quality services.
As if everything illegal were bad and everything legal were good.
That is what one would call a "utopia," but based on popular opinion, we do not live in one.
As an aside, I despise Comcast, Time Warner and many of their ilk, but they are completely well within bounds to do this.
There is no benefit to denying society this option.
Therefore, preventing it, especially in the name of your corporate interest, is "bad". To say what they are doing is good is sociopathic.
Legalities have no relevance to this at all.
That being said, I hope they lose.
Many people think this is buying, it is simply helping the candidate you agree with the most win the election.
Perfectly legal. And perfectly justified for them to espouse what they believe is in their own best interests.
They're still assholes though.
Comcast may be trying to kill the fiber project, or they may have some other reason for opposing McGinn.
I don't feel much genuine "fear," just annoyance that I have to deal with it whenever I go downtown. If I had any business interests downtown I'd be hopping mad.
Sure, there are a handful of homeless people and people waiting for buses, but there's nothing too scary.
This said, Seattle's downtown does have a rather dead nightlife; you have to go to other neighborhoods for that, and it is something that Seattle should work on.
Can you suggest anything which there is a reasonable basis to believe is more significant than the fiber project in Comcast's analysis of the political landscape in Seattle relate to their interests, or is this just pure distraction?
No. I don't live in Seattle, and don't have a dog in the fight. Just pointing out that a lot of people -- "corporate persons" and otherwise -- are dissatisfied with McGinn's performance as mayor.
Oh that is right, they are not persons since they cannot be jailed or hold a position that a real human would.
Maybe if the real persons behind the corporations would lobby with their identity rather than through a lawyer protected corporate shield I would believe they have the interests of the population they are lobbying against. But they don't. So their opinions and lobbyist dollars only look like means to obtain more profits from the corporate structure they are invested in.
Constituents are living batteries for these 'corporate persons' and the political process is just a way to enact corporate will as regulatory code or law, yielding profits from the living wallets under the politicians control.
Downtown Seattle can be a bit rough. I wouldn't lay it squarely at the feet of the mayor though - a lot of it traces back to city planning gone disastrously wrong.
Just a few off the top of my head:
- the southern end of downtown is strictly commercial. Little to no mixed zoning here, meaning that as soon as 5pm rolls by the entire area is a ghost town. If you're there past 6-7pm you will see that the homeless and addicts move in to fill the void. There is no residential or leisure traffic to balance this out. This is US-style single-purpose urban zoning run amok. Vast portions of the urban core is entirely idle after work hours.
- downtown Seattle isn't a cultural or entertainment core, unlike the downtowns of most cities. The actual food scene, nightlife scene, music scene, etc, are in surrounding neighborhoods like Capitol Hill, Ballard, Fremont, etc. This contributes to low foot traffic after work hours, which contributes to higher crime and simultaneously a magnified perception of danger.
- poor urban planning decisions meant an explosion in large-scale development without sufficient requirement for retail frontage. Lots of buildings that take up the entire block with little to no ground-floor retail, making it a pedestrian dead zone and contributing to the feeling of walking down a shady alley no matter where you are. See: much of Belltown, where the declared intent was to produce a walkable neighborhood full of restaurants and nightlife - except few residential buildings wanted to play host to them. This has resulted in little pockets of activity with vast stretches of nothingness in between them.
I work in downtown Seattle and my work takes me a-walking across huge portions of it, and my bus stop is right by 3rd and Pike. I've certainly never felt unsafe, and only occasionally have I been accosted by the homeless (or possibly crackheads) looking for money. There are some problem spots, but nothing terribly aggressive, certainly not by standards I've come to expect from my time in other major cities.
It's much, MUCH better than what I saw/experienced while living in Atlanta, Chicago, San Francisco or Kansas City. Seattle may have some issues with theft, but violent crime isn't out of control. Play around with this [1] Wikipedia lin or this [2] comparison tool:
Seattle is 30th in total violent crime amongst cities with a population above 250,000. Not great, but not bad. For Murder Seattle is 67 out of 75. That's, comparatively, very good.
As for your specific points, I agree with them without regarding them as contributing as much negative impact as you state. You make it sound like Seattle is some pedestrian ghost town where you're taking your life into your own hands by taking a wrong turn. Like any city, some neighborhoods are better than others for leisure activities, and there are some worth avoiding into the night. But it's no worse than most other cities, and often considerably better.
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[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_r...
[2]http://www.areaconnect.com/crime/compare.htm?c1=Seattle&s1=W...
I've seen a lot worse than what happens in downtown Seattle, and yeah, SF has it a lot worse. A lot worse.
I also have an intense dislike for the urban one-upsmanship that seems uniquely American in my experience. As if having seen/lived through worse crime is a badge of honor, and that people living/working in elevated crime areas (just less elevated than some other places) should just suck it up. SF is the absolute worst in this regard (far worse than Seattle), where any criticism about the state of poverty and crime in the city elicits a "hurrr go back to the midwest then hurrrr".
A spade is a spade, even if there are bigger spades out there. The fact that Seattle's urban planning cockups are less severe than San Francisco's should come only as a very mild, very cold comfort.
Part of Seattle's problem - one that I touched on but didn't expand on earlier - is that it feels less safe than it actually is. When it comes to quality of life though, perception of safety is equally important as actual safety. The vast stretches of nothingness at night presents a huge perception problem that I don't think can be conquered by simply telling people "yeah, that nearly empty street with no businesses and a lot aggressive panhandlers making catcalls at you isn't so bad, statistically your odds are good!".
Seattle isn't that dangerous of a city - I made that clear earlier. The downtown is mildly sketchy, the homelessness problem is acute but not as bad as some other places, but the complete void that fills downtown after work is a huge problem that prevents any major progress on this front.
By the way, Seattle is a pedestrian ghost town. Even Pioneer Square on a busy night is ghostly compared to every other urban core in North America I've ever been to. Downtown Seattle (qualified as Olive/Pine all the way down to Yesler or Jackson, and west of I-5) is completely f'ing deserted at night.
That's fair, but you're talking about normative comparisons, and I'm talking about relative ones. I think relative comparisons are more useful in a country that, all things considered, has pretty safe cities. I don't mean to dismiss all of Seattle's problems, but it helps give perspective.
> Part of Seattle's problem - one that I touched on but didn't expand on earlier - is that it feels less safe than it actually is.
That's fair.
> Seattle is a pedestrian ghost town.
No, it's not. Downtown is, yes, but Seattle as a whole has many options for a pedestrian's nightlife. Capitol Hill is one of them, and it's an easy walk from downtown even.
I think that goes back to my last point. I just don't perceive the negatives of Seattle's "urban planning cockups" in nearly as dramatic of fashion.
I'm not from here, I'm not a homer. I just find much fewer problems here than I have anywhere else. I know you don't like relative comparisons, but when choosing a place to live relative comparisons are my most helpful tool.
Seattle's downtown core is horribly planned, in a pattern that is sadly typical of American urban cores post white-flight. Its urban planning awfulness is hardly unique to itself, and like every other city that employed the disastrously myopic single-use zoning strategy, it needs to change.
Or at least, not continue - but before I left Seattle I saw the exact same pattern in Belltown, South Lake Union, and Capitol Hill. The failure to learn from the failure of downtown Seattle IMO threatens to turn perfectly fine neighborhoods into empty, unfriendly, unpleasant shells. Every point I mentioned - large full-block developments, insufficient requirements for retail frontage, and little planning around pedestrian dead zones - is demonstrated in new developments stretching out of downtown.
Note that I am not anti-gentrification or anti-development. I support building upwards and increased density. I support urban renewal. But the developmental policy and requirements that have been the city's norm for decades supports buildings that serve to enlarge the "dead zone". The city - and its voter base - has evidently not learned its lesson, or hasn't ever been to a long-term successful urban neighborhood. Now is not the time to compare yourself to crime hotspots like SF and Detroit and feel good about yourself. There is a problem, and it needs fixing, even if it isn't the same scale of a problem like San Francisco's gigantic urban fuckup.
Ultimately, I just don't see nearly the extent of "urban fuckup" as you do even in normative terms, which is perhaps why the voters you admonish haven't responded as you think they should. I won't forget your comments though, and perhaps a in a year's time I'll be singing a different tune.
(http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021614421_downtowncr...)
I completely agree that SPD is petrified. I've live/worked in downtown Seattle for a while - and while I think some of the 'scaryness' is overblown, it's hard not to see a change in the trend over the past few years.
SPD has an incredibly strong union, which is where the real problem lies IMHO. A bad cop almost literally has to murder somebody before they can fire him. DOJ took note of the resulting abuses, but of course they aren't interested in going toe-to-toe with the union, and neither is the mayor.
It's a complex problem but it stems from a fairly ordinary failure of leadership, and that particular buck stops in the mayor's office.
And Westlake is looking a lot more like Portland every year (as far as homeless youth go).
How many of those homeless people are on the streets because they lost their factory jobs and the bank kicked them out of their McMansion? I am guessing very few.
The recession didn't make these people heroin addicts or mentally ill. The homeless people that make people concerned about walking around downtown Seattle during the evening aren't the "couchsurfing until I can find a new job" kind of homeless people.
Pointing at the state of healthcare, mental or otherwise, hits the nail on the head. That is a problem larger than Seattle though.
That's my dream. :-)
The reasoning is that municipal networks can be (but usually aren't) funded by local tax dollars so it represents a theoretically unfair advantage relative to private corporations. I find that reasoning specious especially considering I can look out my window in Texas and see a city water tower standing right alongside a private water supply company's tower, yet both departments are funded solely by ratepayers, not out of a general tax fund.
1: http://www.gwlr.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Stricker1.pdf
Errr, in a large company aren't you likely to find individual employees donating to almost any given cause?
The laws of economics (Incentives 101) care not for the intent of the lawmakers.
This is a serious amount of money, but how does it really factor in against all other donations? I don't know because the journalist didn't really share that information.
Outside of PACs, here is the direct total contributions to each campaign: http://www2.seattle.gov/ethics/sumreps/sumreps.asp?ElCycle=e...
I'm a working to help re-elect Mayor McGinn to Seattle. We're in a close race with our opponent, who has received thousands of dollars from Comcast. I'm hoping that you will consider helping us out so that we can show the rest of the country that we can do something about improving internet service. Would you consider helping us out with $5 or $10 donation? Here's how you can help: http://www.mcginnformayor.com/donate.
And this isn't the only issue in the race. You can read about the mayor's positions and his vision for the future of our city here: http://www.mcginnformayor.com/why
Thank you,
aaron
Full on competition? No. But better than a wide majority of cities? Yes. (Try living in Florida...ugh)
[1] http://www.ted.com/talks/lawrence_lessig_we_the_people_and_t...
Seattle police, for one thing, have a history of hostility toward its citizens. I'm sure they'd love easier monitoring of, for example, anti-police groups.
Right of way is a natural monopoly. There's a limited amount of space on poles and in conduit. The market can't support having even 4 or 5 providers all running their own lines (even if they all had equal penetration rates, none of them would be making a profit).
When it's done this way, you can choose from many different providers (see UTOPIA and the, what, 9 or 10 providers they have that are all offering 1G for $65-$70/mo.?) and there's actual competition. Those ISPs can choose to provide options for L2 encryption as well (supporting it on their end and providing CPE that supports it).
We will never have meaningful competition for pipes anyway so we gain none of the benefits of the free market by handing them over to private ownership.
Never mind that this is dark fiber capacity being leased by a private company. They're using the glass in the ground and attaching their own equipment to it.
The new "smart meters", which provide much finer grained usage, will be even better for surveillance.
This should be illegal in so many ways...
The power of the internet.