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Wasn't that Alan Gore who started this drama with CO2 emissions so his company makes big $$$ trading CO2 "packages" or however they're called while he is enjoying a few of his mansion houses while telling the rest of us to cut on electricity and ride on bikes?

Dear Westerners suffering from Stockholm Syndrome: Stalin called people like you "useful idiots".

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Let me guess: you also think global warming is a hoax, evolution is fake, and vaccines are a scam.

Let me guess: you still think that we all are going to die of skin cancer because of the whole in the ozone layer?

What happened to that thing? Got old? I'll tell you what. New taxes were imposed world-wide and the problem disappeared over night.

Coldest winters in living memory and these clowns still push "global warming" propaganda. Why don't you turn off the TV and open the eyes, huh?

So… we actually took significant steps to solve a real problem and we solved it?

I'm not sure how this is an argument against climate change.

I hate to feed the troll here, but the ozone hole problem was solved because of a concerted international effort to reduce CFCs going into the atmosphere, eg. by eliminating them from refrigerator coolants.

And it's not solved. Still plenty of skin cancer downunder. It kills.

> Let me guess: you still think that we all are going to die of skin cancer because of the whole in the ozone layer? What happened to that thing? Got old? I'll tell you what. New taxes were imposed world-wide and the problem disappeared over night.

"One time my toaster caught fire, and I poured a bucket of water over it and put it out. Therefore I conclude that putting out fires is easy, and I don't see why people keep moaning about forest fires."

> Coldest winters in living memory

Where? It's been balmy as hell here in Kentucky these past two or three winters. Fleas and ticks are getting really bad without a long, hard freeze to kill them all off.

The world's pretty big, you know. Just 'cause it was cold in your neck of the woods doesn't mean the planet's not getting hotter. You can find the global average numbers as well as I can; they speak for themselves.

Sidenote: Might be a bad idea to pour water over a toaster.

So because someone doesn't practice what he preaches, a good practice should be avoided?

I don't seem to understand your logic.

I think that in Europe riding a bike is something that is done for a good health or exercise. In the US riding a bike can be as much of a statement as driving Hummer H1. In most places in the US there just isn't infrastructure to ride bikes and they are as expensive as used cars. Yep, you make the whole lot of a statement to me if you ride $5k bike in a nice neighborhood on your daily commute in the US. I just know who you vote for when I see you on a bike in nice suite going to work in DC or NYC.

I remember how I was driving to work in the DC instead of taking metro. I was labeled Republican in a second.

So, basically you should avoid doing something healthy to avoid being branded as something you don't like. And the effort to change the current situation is not worth it because of BS politics. Why would you care if strangers label you somehow? I'd only be worried if that could get me into trouble (police, getting mugged, etc.).

The key point from my post is that there is really no biking infrastructure in most of the US, so riding a nice bike to the office in fact becomes a statement. Because riding a bike in let's say Phoenix is just plain dangerous. You don't do it there, period. It's just not convenient to the point where it looks like you are making a left-wing centered statement. It's like driving Hummer H1 in Brussels city centre. One could argue all day long they do it for the passengers safety but the reality is that a strong political statement would be sent (i.e. I have money and don't care about the green craze).

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