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My, how entitled we are! Your priorities may differ from the tens of millions who have bought these, the most popular tablets in the world. Apple is making safe, welcome changes to their products, which is something you can do in times of plenty. Personally, I will be happy to have an iPad that lasts longer, doesn't take ages to turn a page in a high-rez PDF, and is half a pound lighter.

What happened to doing something revolutionary? Lord! Do it yourself! Who says you can't write a book? And why do you have to do it on an iPad? Why not a Surface or whatnot, if that's your priority? Why not a MacBook Air or ultrabook? Your complaints infuriate me!

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Apple is making safe, welcome changes to their products, which is something you can do in times of plenty.

Apple is also the company that made risky, aggressive bets cannibalizing their own products during times of plenty and was highly praised for doing so. (I speak of the iPod) I'm not surprised when people wish to see that kind of movement again.

What product(s) did they cannibalize with the iPod?

I think the poster meant how the iPhone cannibalized the iPod.

Yup, and also how successive generations of the iPod blew the previous generations out of the water, again and again.

There is nothing particularly brave about cannibalizing a rather cheap product (iPod) with an insanely more expensive one (iPhone), that also turns out to become obsolete much more quickly. I should know: I bought one iPod Nano and my sister-in-law is still using it today, however I'm on my third iPhone already.

The iPad Mini cannibalizing the iPad, or the iPad cannibalizing the MacBook are much bolder moves. That iPad Mini Retina does look good...

OP may have meant iPhone, but the best example is the iPod -> iPod Mini, as well as the iPod Mini -> iPod Nano. Both products were flying off the shelves and racking up massive sales when Apple undercut themselves with the cheaper product (the Mini) or completely replaced it with a radically different form factor (the Nano).

In both cases it seemed like money on the table, but in both cases the products became the core of Apple's product offering and dramatically out-sold their predecessors.

My, how entitled we are!

Lord! Do it yourself!

Your complaints infuriate me!

It feels like at some point the quality of the discourse on hackernews went downhill.

If I took the meat out of the sandwich, the sandwich would go downhill, too. Selectively quoting just the crust of a comment and loudly disclaiming about the quality of the discourse - possibly you're right about the quality, but if so then I'm exhibit A, and you're exhibit B.

Making small, iterative upgrades to a product is fine, but then you shouldn't post it on Hacker News like it's something important.

a) Apple didn't post this, an interested user did. b) It's interesting to hackers and has plenty of upvotes. c) To a lot of people using this site, it is something important.

a) Never claimed they did, b1) that's debatable b2) my comment tried to say that maybe it shouldn't be upvoted c) each to their own

a) No, you merely insinuated it, b1) no, the 210 [at time of writing] make it a substantiated fact, (b2) who do you think you are to suggest whether or not some votes for a article. It's how the set works. Don't like the article, don't click the link it really is that simple, (3) absolutely. It would've helped if you'd applied tha before posting first.

What's worthy of posting here? I'm not sure what "10x founders" like you expect to get from hanging out here for multiple years.

Apple were special when they innovated. There is iteration, but no innovation.

> Why not a Surface or whatnot, if that's your priority?

Oh, that'd what I'd been planning to do. Only it turns out that the battery only lasts 6hrs, compared to 12hrs in the otherwise comparable MBA :(

So their 'non-revolutionary' changes have somehow produced a better product for you than their competitors?

I, for one, and shocked.

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