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I've been using PhpStorm for a few years now. After going through several time-wasting periods of trying out every IDE I could get my hands on to see what I liked, I ended up and have stayed with PhpStorm because it is hands down the most feature-full, fast, stable and up-to-date IDE for PHP (and HTML/JS!) development.

It also does not hurt that they're going on a Vagrant rampage and have been showing off my app, https://puphpet.com :)

I always remember the name as "PHPuppet" :(

I always pronounce it "PU PHP Pet." Which I guess is logical because elephants.

I recently decided the correct pronunciation is "puff-et"... like "elephpant"!

That's how I pronounce it too, also love that tool. Much love <3

Thank you for puphpet! Great tool!

First time I see this tool. Looks really sweet! Only things that are missing for my usage is ppa:ondrej/php5 for latest php and Percona instead of MySQL with an option to push in custom my.cnf from within configuring a vm, if that's possible.

If you choose Ubuntu and 5.4/5.5 you're going to use Ondrej's repo.

The problem with that is that Ondrej's 5.5 repo comes with Apache 2.4+ and the Apache Puppet module I'm using only supports up to Apache 2.2 - so Ubuntu + Apache + PHP 5.5 will not work right now, but Nginx will.

Or use Debian.

Sounds good in my case, because I use php-fpm with nginx anyways! Great work. By using MySQL usage for dev is pretty much the same as with Percona, it would've been nicer though to have Percona (or MariaDB if other people use that) instead of actual MySQL though, because you never know if there will be some incompatibility issues.

PRs are accepted :)

I love the elephant puppet mascot.

My one year subscription expires in December, so I was really hoping they'd get version 7 out before it runs out.

My favorite feature is the static code analysis that allows for autocomplete but also shows errors in the code, like functions not available in a class, unused variables, etc. When I use PHPStorm I always find problems in my co-workers code that wouldn't be obvious without code analysis.

Just as I was going to install PhpStorm 6 on my new machine at work, cool.

Most people in my team are not convinced PhpStorm brings anything valuable compared to NetBeans, Eclipse, Sublime2 or even vim. Maybe I will try once again with version 7 :)

I only briefly used Eclipse, so I can't comment on that one. I used NetBeans for a few months though. PHPStorm has much superior refactoring, it beats NB hands down. This by itself was for me enough of a reason to switch.

I also had some issues with NetBeans being inresponsive, or some functionalities breaking for no clear reason (like "go to definition" wouldn't work anymore) etc.

My working copy was on a mounted drive - which sucks, but it didn't depend on me - and whenever NB had a problem saving some file, it would make it look as if the file was saved anyway, and I ended up losing changes.

On the top of that, its SVN integration (I've switched to Git since, but I never looked back at NetBeans, so I can't compare) was ridiculously slow.

It just feels buggy.

What's so good about PhpStorm's refactoring? Can you give an example?

I can't remember exactly anymore what NetBeans has and has not, anyway PHPStorm allows you to generate getters and setters, or to extract a fragment of code into a separate method - the latter one is extremely helpful for refactoring poorly written spaghetti code. This function is quite intelligent, so it takes care of all the local variables and creates a proper method signature (so that the newly created method would take all the variables used by the code as arguments), etc.

I'm switching a lot of branches and Eclipse used to freeze for a few minutes until it indexed the directory. That doesn't happen in phpStorm. That's only one of the many reasons to use it :-)

When I was trying to promote PhpStorm to replace NetBeans, after I told about the code formatting options, a colleague told me it was possible with NetBeans...

You had to select Formatting in a dropdown to display those options (yet, they were limited in comparison with PhpStorm)...

After that day I forgot that NetBeans exist, seriously, a dropdown that changes the UI? What did the developers have in their minds?

Every time I try a full fledged IDE I always fall back to a text editor like sublime-text. Some habits are hard to break.

same for me, going for vim..

same for me, going for ed.

Every time I try a text editor like sublime-text I always fall back to a full fledged IDE. Some habits are hard to break.

I can refactor a chunk of messy script into a separate method with PHPStorm, it's just one command. Good luck with Sublime :) IDEs were invented for a reason. To each his own, but I lost count of how many times I fixed bugs (of the sort that I could broadly classify as typos) made by colleagues who choose to code in Sublime, Commodo, Notepad++ and the like.

I really like Sublime when I need to search for something in a code base though. It also has very pleasant, slick feeling to it.

The idea that you need to click on GUI buttons to get anything done is regressive to the extreme.

No need to click on anything. Everything's accessible through the keyboard.

That is not the idea.

The idea is to use the shortcuts.

Actually PHPStorm is so good with keyboard shortcuts that it offers a few default sets ("keymaps") out of the box to choose from.

Eg. I'm used to Visual Studio shortcuts scheme - I can switch to it straight away (IDE Settings -> Keymap -> Keymaps). There's also Emacs, NetBeans, Eclipse etc. So you don't even need adjusting your habits or wasting time for manual customization.

I don't want to sell you this stuff (not associated with JetBrains in any way), but it's solid, so why make bones about it

As well as being able to set shortcuts for anything you access regularly that doesn't have a default pre-installed, every command can be accessed via one keyboard shortcut (Command + Shift + A on the Mac). You just hit that shortcut, type the first few characters of the command you're interested in, then hit enter.

I switched to PhpStorm from a regular text editor and would not go back.

Now if I could remember all the shortcuts ...

https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/documentation/PhpStorm_Re...

completely reverted for me. Whenever i try to work with vim/sublime on larger projects i feel so crippled without the advanced debugging and refactoring features that i will go back to an IDE. With PhpStorm i didnt feel the urge to change again yet though ;)

Can PHPStorm be considered a full fledged IDE?

I kind of think a full fledged IDE should be capable of multiple languages. e.g. Ruby, Python, HTML5, etc. all in one package.

PHPStorm is a specialized IDE.

PhpStorm ships with support for PHP, Javascript, HTML, CSS.

It has plugins for:

* ASP * Behat * CoffeeScript * Gherkin * HAML * Markdown * LESS * YAML * NodeJS * Dart * AngularJS * C/C++ * Mongo * Apache/Nginx * and a lot more ...

Yeah, I'd say it's full-fledged.

it's just a stripped down version of intellij, at a lower price. Pay for intellij and you get all the languages that are supported.

PHPStorm is more focused and coherent and includes some features that IDEA + PHP plugin doesn't, IMO. If I were a full-time PHP developer, I'd use PHPStorm, but for my occasional PHP needs, IDEA + PHP plugin is ideal.

PyCharm is much the same - for full-time Python development, I'd prefer it to IDEA + plugin.

How are the fonts with Ubuntu (Linux)? Last time I used it a year ago they were terrible.

I used the EAP at home, they were great on ElementaryOS.

I think they look good, I've been looking at them for hundreds of hours without complaining. Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/sPmh5qd.png

I wouldn't consider this "looking good". Last time I checked you still had to put great amount of work to get them to look halfway decent [1].

[1] Screenshot from OSX: https://www.dropbox.com/s/a4bwc3txkq71otd/Screenshot%202013-...

You can make java programs like all JetBrains IDEs use the OS native font rendering, just add the following snippet to /etc/profile.d/jre.sh and source or relogin to take effect.

export _JAVA_OPTIONS='-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=on -Dswing.aatext=true'

Nope, doesn't work, I just tried it.

Eclipse default: http://i.imgur.com/MKCUJR8.png

IDEA with your JAVA_OPTIONS: http://i.imgur.com/UGDVhin.png

We are continuously working on improving it and fonts are indeed better now, however, there are a lot of things we can't do something about because of JDK for Linux.

There are some links and information on additional configuration for Linux to be checked at http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-57233

Yeah, that kind of sucks about Linux, it looks better now but still ugly.

I love the products on Windows, where it looks great and works great. Especially love PHPStorm for PHP and IntelliJ for Java :).

This is the reason that I cannot use phpstorm on linux. I was a long term phpstorm user on windows, but when I swapped to linux I just couldn't stand those fonts. I now dread opening up phpstorm.

I'm a huge fan of PhpStorm. However, I'm wondering what's the purpose of having vagrant in an IDE?

Vagrant is easy to work already, just 'vagrant up' and you're away. What problem does the IDE solve? And looking at the interface, the 'halt' button is too close to the 'destroy' button. Might have an accidental click there...

It would be cool if they had an interface such as WAMP Server, where you can select the php versions, php extensions, start / stop services, log files, v-host configs, etc, all from one menu. Now that would be very useful.

> just 'vagrant up' and you're away

No, it's

1) Switch to the console

2) Vagrant up

3) Wait for the results

4) Switch back

Instead of one key press and watching it run in the bottom console while you're writing the code.

It's also nice when you have multiple projects open, each with their own Vagrant settings, to let the IDE manage each one.

My only problem with terminal and vagrant built into the IDE, is I have multiple monitors and enjoy separation. I usually fullscreen my IDE/editor in one monitor, maximizing each file's viewport to the best I can, and then have multiple terminals on another monitor.

Can I "pop-out" the terminal/vagrant windows in this IDE and put them on another monitor?

Strange that pyCharm does have a community edition (http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/index.html) but phpStorm doesn't (http://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/download/index.html)

PyCharm Community Edition does not include all the web features - those available in Professional edition (and other features too). That would be quite strange to have PhpStorm Community Edition without support for web technologies (without PHP too)

Anyone here used PhpEd and then switched to PhpStorm in the last few years?

I've really enjoyed using PhpEd myself, but sometimes it gets annoying that it has its own debugger (not XDebug) and that seems to cause issues with typical tools like PHPUnit and some of the features they have (like code coverage tests).

I switched to Intellij from PhpED a few years ago for a few reasons.

- Better support. Sometimes PhpEd would rarely give updates about what they were working on or what they were doing. My subscription ran out and I was not going to take a chance on "what ifs" when Intellij had all features I needed.

- More features. There were and probably still are lots of things PhpStorm/Intellij has that PhpEd does not.

- Intellij has support for more languages and PHP was only part of the work I did and even less of it now.

- Better JavaScript support (support for lots of JS frameworks built in. Missing a library locally for JS? It tells you. Also syntax highlight and error/lint check support for TypeScript and CoffeeScript

PhpEd was nice and I'm sure it's gotten better, but it at the time, it seemed like they were always a step or two behind the PHP and HTML5 updates so you could never count on using the latest features.

One advantage PhpEd always had on Intellij is that PhpEd is native (delphi code). Thus PhpEd always started up faster and there was a little less latency when clicking on menus or something, but it's not that noticeable and Intellij performs better than other Java Apps.

Thanks for the reply! For a while there (I started using PhpEd in 2008 or so) the updates were coming fairly slowly but they have seemed to ramp up lately which has been nice (version 11 of PhpEd seems to be due out fairly soon but I'm not sure which features will be coming).

The main open source project I work with (Joomla) seems to use PhpStorm almost exclusively now that we have a free open source license we can use. I tried it briefly last year, but with the latest round of updates it seems like it'll be worth taking a closer look at again :-).

I have liked the native speed of PhpEd, but one thing that I think that has held me back from switching to another platform has been the lack of Mac support it has so maybe switching to PhpStorm will make that transition more of a possibility down the road.

PhpEd worked well over Wine when I used it, but only tried that on Linux. Worth a try on OSX though.

It's lack of support for the Open JDK somewhat kills it for me (I run Linux): https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/webhelp/system-requiremen...

IDEA runs well in OpenJDK 7. Have you just given it a shot?

I haven't frankly, I was just going by their notes which state that it does not. I might give PHPStorm a go with the trail version on the Open JDK.

They say that they don't support it. There's a difference between "doesn't work" and "isn't supported". Isn't supported implies that if you encounter a bug that is due to your choice of JDK, they will not feel obligated to fix it (though may still choose to do so if its practical for them to do so).

It runs fine in OpenJDK, at least in my case.

(ArchLinux x86_64 https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/jre7-openjdk...)

Anyway, you can always download Java from the Oracle Downloads website and put it somewhere in your home directory and just define these variables in ~/.bashrc:

export JAVA_HOME="/home/username/Software/Java/jdkx.y.z_w/"

export JRE_HOME="$JAVA_HOME/jre"

export JDK_HOME="$JAVA_HOME"

export PHP_STORM_HOME="/home/username/Software/PHP/PhpStorm-x.y/"

export PATH="$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PHP_STORM_HOME/bin"

. ~/.bashrc

phpstorm.sh > /dev/null 2>&1 &

echo "Enjoy the ride"

I'll try it on Fedora on the Open JDK and see how it goes. Right now I'm using Sublime and love it, but many of my colleagues are encouraging me to try PHPStorm.

Well I can confirm that it does appear to work on Fedora 19 using the Open JDK, but it is slow on my machine (i7 with 8GB of RAM and an SSD). In fairness though it does make it clear with this warning message when you run it that this is to be expected:

"./phpstorm.sh WARNING: You are launching the IDE using OpenJDK Java runtime.

         ITS KNOWN TO HAVE PERFORMANCE AND GRAPHICS ISSUES!
         SWITCH TO THE ORACLE(SUN) JDK BEFORE REPORTING PROBLEMS!

NOTE: If you have both Oracle (Sun) JDK and OpenJDK installed please validate either WEBIDE_JDK, JDK_HOME, or JAVA_HOME environment variable points to valid Oracle (Sun) JDK installation. See http://ow.ly/6TuKQ for more info on switching default JDK."

So yeah, I guess they weren't kidding in their list of requirements. Oracle JDK or suffer a degraded performance.

Awesome VCS integration, super fast and symbol navigation is amazing. I stuck with Netbeans for over two years, it was decent, and then the newer versions (7.3) started crashing on my large PHP project. Switched to phpStorm and never looked back.

I use PyCharm, which has most all of WebStorm in it. I'm a huge fan of JetBrains cross-platform dev tools. I still use other text-editors often for one-off edits, but most my big team projects get edited with PyCharm.

I've started using WebStorm for the last 6 months... it's sick for anything js/node/coffee/mv*.

Also started messing with RubyMine. It's nice to have all your keyboard shortcuts standardized across IDE's.

Wait till you try intellij idea: java, php, ruby, python, go, js, node, coffee, etc all in one.

+1 for IntelliJ IDEA

Just to reiterate myself - IMO, PHPStorm, PyCharm etc. are slightly more featureful and more coherent for their respective languages than IDEA + plugin.

PHPStorm is cool. Haven't looked back after switching to it almost an year ago. Worth the money. Plus, they offer discounted licenses for students and open source projects!

Sweet! I like that I can upgrade for free with my license bought a few months back. Looking forward to trying the Vagrant and SSH stuff.

I've been trying PhpStorm for a while and to be honest I don't see the benefits compared to Netbeans.

php 5.5 support listed as a feature annoys me.

I am a paying user ) and when I reported that php 5.5 was not recognized as php 5.4 or better I felt I was just brushed off. So, for the moment I cannot use the built in server features.

) Technically I bought Idea and downloaded the php plugins.

Did you file a bug for it?

Everything JetBrains makes is just pure awesome. Any suggestion for a full blown Javascript IDE?

Any word on when the new python and php plugins hit intellij idea?

They will "hit" only curret IDEA 13 EAP+ Both are quite up to date there and are update often - i.e. PS7's php plugin version will be out in a hour.

The best IDE imo. The only extra thing I add is the Symfony2 skin. Here is a link to it: https://github.com/cordoval/Symfony2Colors/blob/master/READM...

Symfony2 plugin is also nice.

Its a great IDE, but they don't accept bitcoin so their loss

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