So far, I fail to see how technology companies are going to be any different.
So far, I fail to see how technology companies are going to be any different.
In the UK we normally think of Germany as having very good technical education that puts us to shame - for some reason does this not work in IT?
Why are not larger companies in Germany not training IT apprentices.
A start up almost by definition requires more experienced workers.
Try that with IT. Did MongoDb exist 5 years ago? Did Node.js? The list is endless.
Information Technology moves too fast for the German style and concept of apprenticeships (in my opinion). There are apprenticeships for Informatik, but I see them much like undergraduate Computer Science courses.
My experience of CS undergraduate studies are that you will learn the basic concepts, and a bunch of bullshit thrown in that you'll never use again in the workplace, but that is about it.
Having more people who have been taught properly from first principals rather than only learning the latest trendy thing woudl be a very good idea! You would certainly have less of the "developers who cant program fizz buzz problems"
And I would expect a competent person to be able to pick up mongodb or nodejs even before they had finished the 4 year apprenticeship.
I started my career on the vocational track track (in mech eng) and on my second day at work they said "pop down the the company library there is a book on FORTRAN learn it"
(sorry for caps lock - this is copy and paste) - FACHINFORMATIKER ANWENDUNGSENTWICKLUNG (software eng./dev.) - FACHINFORMATIKER SYSTEMINTEGRATION (sys. integration) - IT-SYSTEM-ELEKTRONIKER (IT technicians) - IT-SYSTEM-KAUFMANN (IT business) - INFORMATIKKAUFMANN (again IT business) - Mathematisch-technische Software-Entwickler - Informationselektroniker - Fachangestellte für Medien- und Informationsdienste - Mediengestalter Digital und Print
In conclusion: the chamber of commerce ideed did its job. If they did it very well is a question of perspecitve.
To bring this into startup context: Most very early Startups won't take apprenticeships as this is an additional workload and overhead (apprentices want to be tought...) that might not pay off in the short term. As an apprentice I would also think twice about joining a startup as one needs at least 2 1/2 years to finish the apprenticeship. (Startups might not exist that long.)
my 2 cents
But your right a startup with say 5 developers trying to develop a product in a short time scale is probably not suitable for trainees.
How how do the apprenticeships is it day release or block? 1 day a week at college and working 4 days a week is not that to much to ask from an employer? especially as apprentice's probably are paid less.
I am assuming there is a system of training levies so that the cost is born across the whole of industry - when I did mine (in mech eng) we joked that the government gave the employer more in grant subsidy for us than our actual salary.
[1]: http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/bundeslaender-rank... (2011 data)
Actually I often wonder what all the people here do for a living. I guess the main employer is the government now.
The water supplies do work fine, the problem however is, that, much like Dresden's sale of its city-owned flats to the Gagfah (an investor), selling core infrastructure to investors risks long-term sustainability in favour of short-term profit. You might be right though that this is somewhat down to ideology.
London and Paris are comparable (and worse)
Cost cutting by DB? So the problems are in the S-Bahn rather than the subway/BVG?
Edit: ok I read some answers, I'll add that DB is rebuilding the bridges on Yorkstraße
Financial incompetence and bad planning are a strong factor. West Berlin used to be subsidized before the wall fell and since nobody ever questioned the amount of money flowing here they could basically do what they wanted. After the reunion Berlins administration expected the population to grow to 5 million by the year 2000 but that growth never materialized. Still, they kept spending money like they used to.
> Problem for a long time has been that Berlin is very big, yet has no big industries.
It actually used to be the core of the german tech industry. There's whole quarters named after companies: Siemensstadt, Borsigwerke, ... and whole blocks in the city that used to be factories - Oberbaum city that used to be the Osram Lamp factories, Varta, ... A lot are now converted to office space.
> Actually I often wonder what all the people here do for a living. I guess the main employer is the government now.
Government is a strong factor. A lot of media companies moved to Berlin and a lot of service and support, especially for companies which trade a lot with eastern europe. The BASF has their whole eastern european business support in Berlin - that big tower at Warschauer Strasse. Berlin is fairly strong with biotech startups as well. No industry to speak of, though.
Compare it to Munich, where it's a minor scandal if one S-Bahn is like 5 minutes late. That's outstanding.
People are just discussing whether substantial investment to attract tech companies is wise if the hope is that tech companies will contribute towards fixing social problems or even contribute substantially to the local economy.