>My point is you can hate PHP all you want it is a great tool that has its place in enterprise envirronement.
Go back and read your post. Now if you want to deflect the criticism that you did not support your point by pretending you had a different point, you are again failing in the same way. Every scripting language has equal or better "speed of development deployement" compared to PHP. Saying "PHP might be a giant pile of crap, but at least you can write stuff in it" only works if you can't write stuff in other languages. But obviously you can. If you want to claim PHP has a role, then state that role clearly, and support the claim with evidence. You need to show that PHP is in some way better than the alternatives.