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> The market is broader than just the end-users of phones. Share markets, patents, deals with collaborators (such as network operators, music companies), and bribes (mostly in less developed countries) are just as much a part of the market as end-users.

Please explain how any of this applies to Apple's business. At it stands it sounds like innuendo.

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I wasn't talking specifically of Apple here. I was talking about the ways in which markets may have nothing to do with end-users.

> Apple are doing nothing different from their competitors with regard to patents.

This is absolutely wrong. Some companies are more aggressive than others when it comes to abusing patent, trade dress, and copyright laws. How many trade dress lawsuits have you seen Samsung, LG, HTC, etc. initiate against Apple? In the recent past, a handful of Apple's patents were invalidated because of prior art. How many companies filed lawsuits against Apple when iPhone implemented these features?

Many: Samsung, Motorola, Nokia, etc...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-14/nokia-apple-payment...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc._litigation

I guess you haven't seen http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/02/if-android-is-a-s... or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada#iPhone_controversy

Like I said, some companies are more aggressive than others. Odd that you mentioned Samsung.

You claimed that other companies don't litigate the things that Apple does, and he proved you wrong.

Evidently, you both need to work on your reading comprehension.

So the thing about markets was just innuendo.

Please explain how you conclude that.

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