Anyone care to speculate how they found him?
Anyone care to speculate how they found him?
They implied this was the first thing they did. The interception of the fake IDs may have occurred before or after he was already under heavy suspicion of being Dread Pirate Roberts. I also believe there was some discussion that the fake IDs might've actually sent by an undercover agent.
Either way, I think it's very likely that they already had the idea that Ross Ulbricht == DPR before finding his Stack Overflow post.
I thought this part was the dumbest aspect of the whole arrangement, but then I heard about posting on Stack Overflow to get your bugs fixed, and "contact me at rossulbricht@gmail.com kthxbye", and I begin to think that "criminal mastermind" is not exactly an apt description of this guy. I find it hard to contain my laughter at this.
I would have thought the server seizure demonstrated exactly why you would go to this bother: when you encrypt your address to the seller's public key, and send the encrypted address rather than the plaintext address, now all the FBI gets is an encrypted message they can't read. And the Tor connections means that they can't look up your IP in the logs, and so on and so forth.
And how can I trust that the seller isn't an FBI agent? Still seems kind of risky. Even if they aren't an FBI agent, they're going to decrypt the address, and who knows what they'll do with it in plaintext? For one, they will write it on an envelope, leaving open the potential for exactly what happened with the fake IDs.
If not these scenarios involving law enforcement, there's also the risk that the seller, who has my address, will extort me for cash or whatever.
Just as with buying drugs face to face you have to trust that the dealer is not malicious, is there a risk? definitely. But just as in the real world law enforcement have little interest in wasting their time on buyers.
It seems to me if you go out of your way to hide your identity you should, um, hide your identity. That would mean not trusting the post office just as you would not trust a sniffable network. Arrange a drop in a public place or some such. (Or do I see too many movies?)
And it may seem risky, but that doesn't matter: we have the numbers. We have the statistics. The FBI has kindly told us exact numbers based on the SR database they seized. You can calculate the risk pretty easily. Take the number of sellers and/or transactions, get an estimate of number of buyers busted (for example, count instances in http://www.gwern.net/Silk%20Road#safe ), divide. This is like worrying that flying on an airliner might be really risky since the plane could fall out of the sky or be hijacked - certainly, but the worry is wrong, and you can go to faa.gov and look up the exact numbers and see for yourself how risky flying on an airplane is.
And it seems that I am not the only one who sees something there, as according to media reports DPR himself was extorted over the question of revealing the street addresses of users.
You're probably right that the average Joe doesn't have to worry. But for specific individuals like DPR, they should know that being involved in facilitating a large number of illegal transactions, there is much more likelihood that they specifically will be targeted by law enforcement. I would expect then that they would do more to guard access to their address.
(Even if most people are OK, that doesn't mean it's not still a weakness. In the days before SSH became common, I used to log in over telnet all the time and never once to my knowledge got compromised. I suspect many had the same experience. Does that mean I was safe? Of course not.)
I agree, it does sound absurd. And yet...
> And it seems that I am not the only one who sees something there, as according to media reports DPR himself was extorted over the question of revealing the street addresses of users.
DPR was worried (assuming, as usual, that the indictments are reasonably accurate here and their lies, omissions, and insinuations affect only other things) about the reputation of SR as a whole: SR as a viable business was being held hostage. This is not something relevant to an individual buyer being blackmailed one on one, which was the scenario you were asking about.
> But for specific individuals like DPR, they should know that being involved in facilitating a large number of illegal transactions, there is much more likelihood that they specifically will be targeted by law enforcement. I would expect then that they would do more to guard access to their address.
Yep. The ID stuff was remarkably careless. We don't know that it was fatal - I personally suspect the Australia wire transfer may have revealed everything - but it obviously could have been.
Why did he even need the fake IDs? They claimed it was to rent servers, which makes zero sense I've never been asked for ID when renting dedicated servers they just ask for money. PRQ certainly doesn't ask for anything except email address and payment.
I guess he didn't read that story about the secret service running a sting operation for years posing as an ID vendor on fraud forums.
Specifically to your question, I'd guess they run a large number of Tor exit nodes and from there it was fairly simple to see exactly who was doing what.
Also it's come out recently in the Guardian, the NSA can backdoor machines through special servers running man-in-the-middle attacks.
Basically, the Internet (and planet Earth too) is not secure, so trying to pull off a large-scale crime is kind of foolish.
Parallel construction doesn't actually imply that the NSA is omniscient and that the entire rest of the American justice system is a charade meant to mask its power from the muggles. The NSA doesn't know everything. They don't see everything. They don't whisper words of power into the ears of every prosecutor, and a dark man smoking a cigarette doesn't appear from out of the shadows with fabricated evidence for the Department of Justice and a dossier from ten minutes into the future every time a hacker opens their browser.
It gets mentioned every time a post comes up involving court case or arrest, and it's quite honestly as useless a form of speculation as suggesting divine intervention as a first cause in science. Assuming too much power on the part of the NSA (and by extension, that no other methods used by any other bureau or department are effective except as a smokescreen) is as dangerous as dismissing them entirely.
You have a good point though that maybe my comment is not constructive. I don't wish for this to become a cliche response on HN that it 'must have been the NSA' but we must acknowledge that they posses powers of surveillance the world has never before seen (except if you believe in God... however, we actually have architecture diagrams and proof of the NSA technology... not just 'The Book of Edward').
But yeah, it's dangerous to dismiss the NSA entirely and dangerous to make it a given they're more powerful than they are. However, given their secrecy, that's all a fairly expected situation for us.
Its awful to say, but do you think a murder in Detroit gets the same attention this guy or Snowden does/did?
http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/silk-road-mastermind...
From that account, it looks like the key break was likely that the first alias to promote Silk Road (altoid) was at one later point also linked to a real-name gmail address (rossulbrecht@gmail).
Even if that association was brief, plenty of people (and even law enforcement researchers) are likely scraping/archiving or email-subscribed to the bitcoin forum where the association appeared. The same goes for 'tor' forums or tags elsewhere... so an actual law-enforcement approach to StackOverflow/Bitcointalk/Gmail/etc may not have even been necessary.
(OTOH, Bitcointalk.org is currently down after an attack that may have resulted in the leak of username/hashed-password/email records. User altoid's email address there could have been obtained by law enforcement, by subpoena or hack, and also pointed towards Ulbrecht.)
[1]: http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/UlbrichtCriminalCompl...
I do not know why any judge would issue one of those searches + gag included orders based on a random code fragment, but then of course I know that judges just robosign these things from the FBI turned intelligence agency.
I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure any half-decent cop would be using the logs of that conversation to convert that person into a witness.
Freedom Hosting was likely a NSA op to get a hold of tormail.org messages and history because Snowden was either using it or emailing somebody using it. The FBI will use parallel construction to cover that one.
SR I suspect they simply watched him sitting at cafes and libraries and logging into his virtual cartel. There were also numerous people who had discovered leakage and were able to find the server many of whom ended up working for DPR. Either way it wasn't set up very well, who knows maybe the FBI uploads spyware.js as an image while posting a new order or broke through the php5-mysql plugin. I'm sure they will discover that half his inner circle of close associates were informants too maybe they leaked the address. Remember he once put out applications for database administrators you can guarantee dozens of agents signed up for the job.