HN Pizza Index: Cost of living by city
if we get enough responses I will compile a graph and let the UN know.
if we get enough responses I will compile a graph and let the UN know.
In the U.S. it's often considered a cheapo mass food for students, but in other countries it can be something of a luxury, exotic and foreign; if the only place to get pizza targets wealthy expats and the spoiled offspring of the rich who want to seem "western," it's not going to be particularly cheap... [and many countries are of course somewhere in the middle]
That doesn't mean the cost of living is actually higher in the latter places, because there are very likely to be far cheaper indigenous foods that occupy roughly the same "position" pizza occupies in the U.S.
The price of something, after all is not just the cost of the ingredients and the labor used to make it, it's determined by what people are willing to pay, and people will often pay for very ephemeral qualities...
Major pizza chain or gourmet pub?
You say "largest" pizza, but why not just specify large? Some places have enormous sized pizzas (well above 20 inches) others don't go above 18 inches.
A good (e.g. not the crap from Domino's which is overpriced in CH anyway) italian Pizza Margherita made in a wood oven with a size of around 33cm costs CHF 17 (~$19) in Zurich.
It's the wood that makes it good.
[1] http://www.bindella.ch/gastronomie/ueberblick-ristoranti/res...
About 55 ARS delivered in the suburbs (Gran Buenos Aires) and 80 ARS in a middle range restaurant. That's about 9,50 USD and 13,7 USD respectively using official exchange rates and 5,75 USD and 8,35 USD using the blue market rates. We don't really have chain pizza restaurants with international presence.
Also, things tend to raise at about 20% per year, so take that into account.
This country is fun, crazy and cheap, come visit. :)
¥2800 = $28.74 from Domino's
Japan's protectionist policies on farm products pushes up the price of all of pizza's ingredients. You'll get much better value for money with a gyuudon (rice topped with beef) set meal.
That's for a 12" thin-crust pizza--the sort of thing a moderately hungry person would eat alone.
The pizza is not bad, but don't bother with pepperoni (it isn't spicy, in a land where tons of things are spicy). Casual local meals are about one-quarter of those prices. And many Asian people are not really into cheese, so there's limited scope for a $1 slice place (probably the only place you can even order a single slice is at the airport).
Btw, normal Margherita in Germany (Pizza Hut) 4,9 € / $7.64, large Margherita in Germany (Pizza Hut) 7,9 € / $10.71
While most fast food outlets in America are seen as quick and (relatively) inexpensive food sources, they have been identified as upper- to upper-middle class brands since they first arrived in India. (IIRC, that was mid- to late-90s.)
IMHO, when they arrived the prices quoted on their rate-cards seemed to be directly converted from their parent locations, e.g. the daily-special dollar-sub was priced at INR 50 (roughly equivalent to a dollar) and standard subs were about INR 110 - or about $2. The standard chicken burger was priced at INR 60-ish and a happy meal combo was approx. INR 150 (roughly USD 3-ish back then).
(There isn't an Indian equivalent for the Pizza, so I can't make an adequate comparison here. :( )
Compare this with the ubiquitous "Wada-Pav" - the Indian street-food that is considered to be the equivalent of the burger - which was priced at about INR 5 back then. The Indian equivalent of the sub, i.e. the street-sandwich, would cost about INR 10.
As a kid who grew up in a very middle-class family when I was attending graduate (that's undergrad for you Americans, BTW) college, my weekly allowance/lunch-money was INR 100. With that kind of money, visiting a McDonald's or a Subway was not something we could do on a lark, you see.
Thus, by association and by virtue of their exaggerated price-points, these fast-food chains automatically became elevated to 'elite' levels, i.e. if you could afford to spend ten times the money for something a normal man considered regular fast-food, you had better be earning ten times as much as the normal guy. (I remember feeling quite nervous and kinda intimidated when I walked into a McDonald's outlet for the first time! :D)
Things have changed since then, however.
Some time in the last decade, McDonalds' and KFC realized that with the kind of prices they started out with, they were missing out the largest chunk of their target Indian market - the college-kids. Ever since, they have initiated reduced price menus (smaller burgers for INR 20, daily specials, etc.) for them.
Just for reference, the "Wada-Pav" I spoke about earlier, costs about INR 10 these days while the smaller-burger costs about INR 25. The street-sandwiches are at least INR 25, while a daily-special dollar-sub is about INR 50-ish. Not to forget, the allowances kids get these days have increased significantly, too!
Of course, my perspective in this matter is quite restricted. Do take it with a pinch of salt, please. :)
http://www.economist.com/content/big-mac-index
(May have been mentioned in the thread noted by OP, but I cannot find the thread at the moment. Link anyone?)
Although there is a 2-for-1 promotion, which is always available. (extra 5tl for second one), then it would cost 14TL $7.
One pizza is 19.90TL, which is 9.94USD with current currency. But with 2-for-1 promotion, like you said it's +5TL, it's 24.90TL total, 12.45TL each, which makes 6.22USD.
I've checked both Dominos's website and Yemeksepeti's (the largest online food ordering website here) website.
(I was logged-in to both, I don't think so but, maybe there is a discount?)
My local pizzeria: 60 SEK - 9.34 USD
Pizza Hut (Large): 209 SEK - 32.52 USD
But you usually go for a medium sized pizza for ~4.5 Euro = $6.10
But this is relatively expensive for Thailand, since pizza is considered a luxury food here :)
I don't think anyone would call it a luxury food either. If you're (poor and) going to splurge on something you're not going to sit down at a pizza chain.
A related complaint: As flexible as this city's restaurant culture is, it's impossible to get a good pizza at any price.
Dominoes is horrible.
Edit: Neither do variable sizes, both are for a ~12 inch. I have no idea what size a Dominoes "large" is, but I can imagine it's terrifying...
Local pizzeria: 7€ (~9.5 USD) Pizza Hut (Large): 25.8€ (~35 USD)
The premium pizzas are $17.99+ for a large cheese.
Bergen, Norway
Not including delivery.
Oslo, Norway. (horrible) Local pizza around 100 NOK / 16.87 USD. Chain (Peppes Pizza) 170 NOK / 28.5 USD, 40 cm pizza
Delivery not included.
pizza hut -- supreme
BNY: Ind. € 9,90 $13.42 / Média € 17,05 $23.11 / Familiar € 23,40 $ 31,72 PAN: Ind. € 10,35 $14,03 / Média € 17,65 $23,93 / Familiar € 24,15 $ 32,74 / ROLLING: € 26,15 $35,45
₪39 = $10.99 from Domino's
But to be fair, its terrible pizza.
Spain: €4-€15 ~ 5-20 USD
Local good pizza : 12€ - $16
Dominos : 15.90€ - $21.50
$5 USD out the door
Domino's and Pizza hut will offer the same deal from time to time but you have to get their promo emails.