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A bit of trivia, which makes the title actually wrong: it's "Gendarmerie Nationale" (which is a military corps, handled by "Ministère de la Défense" ~ DoD), not "Police Nationale" (which is not a military corps, under "Ministère de l'Intérieur" ~ DoHS).

The USA relies (IIUC) on 2nd amendment to resist oppression, possibly from its own police forces and government, whereas in France guns are outright forbidden but there are by design those two distinct and independent entities, with an autonomous chain of command, hopefully guaranteeing one will defend the people rights should the other be subverted.

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This seems very much a French ideal. I used to visit France a lot for work, and there seemed to be a lot of disrespect of authority. (Strikes, unions, etc.)

This gets me thinking about Open Source. I would think that adoption is consistent with the Power to the People ethos in France. How is their Linux adoption as a country compared with the rest of the world?

In France Unions ARE the authority.

Most of the French work for the government and unions have lots of power.

Most of the French DON'T work for the government and unions have almost no power whatsoever. That's why they make a lot of noise.

The union culture in France is much smaller than in Belgium or Germany. The french media are giving it a lot of coverage (while criticizing it at the same time) but it doesn't mean its influence is as effective as you make it sound. There are your classical Poujadas scapegoats.

The adoption of Linux is just consistent with the fact that we're getting poor.

Are there stats of Linux adoption in France versus elsewhere? Or increased adoption as countries become poor?

> This gets me thinking about Open Source. I would think that adoption is consistent with the Power to the People ethos in France. How is their Linux adoption as a country compared with the rest of the world?

There is a funny fad of the week in the part of the IT field I am involved in that has old-timer one-finger typing IT guys shouting "Yes but the cost of maintaining linux and training people greatly outweigh those of windows; people don't realize that everybody knows windows but if something goes wrong with linux you have to pay to get help".

The bearded windows guys are scared.

Have the bearded heavy iron guys become bearded windows guys?

Is your experience specific to France? I'm interested in if my perceived view of their culture is correct when it comes to software adoption.

Specific to Belgium and France. Definitely specific to Belgian training staff though. My french on-line acquaintances only speak linux so I only have hear-says from them but they relate the same stories.

Sort of... There has been a lot of talks about merging the two bodies, and some steps have already been made towards that goal by the current administration and the previous one.

It's not unthinkable that distinction and separate chain of command would eventually go away in the next decade or so.

> A bit of trivia, which makes the title actually wrong: it's "Gendarmerie Nationale" (which is a military corps, handled by "Ministère de la Défense" ~ DoD), not "Police Nationale" (which is not a military corps, under "Ministère de l'Intérieur" ~ DoHS).

Well, since 2009, the Gendarmerie receives its budget and orders from the Ministère de l'Intérieur. It's not a police force stricto sensu, but their missions are those of a police force.

Gendarmerie is the police for rural areas.

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