The thread seems to be overrun by a bunch of whiny crybabies.

No one forces people to use them, yet they seem to have a great time crying about it without trying to defend their position.

Cucumber and RSpec are among a set of testing tools which has really changed the testing landscape. It would be really wonderful if people spent half this time and energy on trying to create a better tool or joining the open source groups of Cucumber and RSpec and trying to make it better.