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And I don't understand what makes you think annoyance/hatred of EE has to do with HN identity. You seem to have drawn this conclusion based on the fact that most HN users dislike EE. I would posit that most developers and IT workers who used search engines prior to StackOverflow would dislike EE quite a bit. It is not surprising that the sentiment you see on HN would correlate with that.

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You are definitely right that this sentiment is strong throughout the tech industry, so it's just by coincidence that it is strong on HN, however, it does define a strong position in voting behavior on HN. Even when there are reasonable arguments in support of non-open models (and I'm not saying this is one of them), downvotes fly and little discussion is had, it creates a feedback loop that reinforces an entrenched ideology and shuns opposing view points. I'm not making a value judgement about one or the other view, but it does affect how interactions on HN take place.

> reasonable arguments in support of non-open models (and I'm not saying this is one of them)

Then what the hell are you talking about? I am yet to see a reasonable argument in support of their business practices. Please link me to one if I missed it - because I don't think it exists.

The only thing I seem to see repeated is "some googley company did what we did but offered it for free and we have kids to feed so let us do shady things to keep our dated business model afloat and don't hate on us over it!"

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