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25 pointsJackOfNoTrade24 comments

I find it amusing that the team consists of 12 people, and only one of them is a developer (maybe 2 if we count the CTO).

Is this normal for tech startups?

Yes it's normal for developers to do all of the work and for sales, marketing, finance, HR, the CEO, CTO, COO etc. to get all of the money.

I'd downvote this if I could.

yeah, but a group of 12 managers for a startup is the recipe for failure.

Good question. We actually have eight developers on our team of 18 and growing. However, sometimes our teammates are shyer to be photographed. ;)

> PandaDoc tracks your docs, let’s you know who has looked at what, when, and then gives you detailed analytics to help you plan your next move.

Aka a service where I as receiver would feel violated from being spied on. It is no one's business when and where I read what and how.

Also, it being cloud-based you never really receive the documents, but you are just enabled to view them if the site is online. Or maybe I am misreading the marketing speak.

> Also, it being cloud-based you never really receive the documents, but you are just enabled to view them if the site is online.

Yeah this worries me. If it's a document that requires my signature, I want a real live document in my hands that I can file away for safe keeping... I know it's about preserving forests and all that good stuff, but legal documents are something I want physical copies of.

True, but 85% of identity theft cases are from offline docs.

Source?

http://www.payitgreen.org/consumer/faq :)

it's mostly from mail i think.

On the general issue of securely sending signed documents, I'd like to see a federal agency with credibility provide such a service. In particular, this seems like a great opportunity for the post-physical US Postal Service

Decades ago this was one of the features of the OSI X.400 email standard the idea was you could do physical delivery as well as electronic - leveraging the fact that many PTT's had relationships with their country's post office.

I think the 88 version of x.400 also had non repudiation and electronic signatures - its a long time since I read the blue books.

Interesting how you can open Finder on your iPad.

that was just a screencast - going really lean about it :)

I think this is a bit of a pivot from their business at Quote Roller

look nice but I don't think the whole panda branding and "save the panda" going to work for your target market which is SME and up.

do you think it's going to hurt us? (i personally prefer Hootsuite and MailChimp to our other software because of the whimsical characters.) ;)

I know it's not really to do with the service, but 1% of profits go to preserving pandas?

Surely if you care about pandas enough to name your service after the creature, you can do better than 1% of profits?

I agree - 1% of revenue might be something but 1% of profits, after all expenses? I hope that it's still something but I don't think that's enough to pride yourself on it or to use it as marketing.

Of course, 1% is still a lot more than most companies. And aside the donations, this might help get the issue some attention too. But that doesn't seem to be the motivation either, given that they barely go into the problem (and they end with "Plus… pandas are just so cute! :)" - ever heard of speciesism? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism )

tell me more about the "tracks changes"

Can I upload an updated version of the document (say a contract) and you will see what changed?

that would be a nice one. definitely will consider it down the road.

Will you have an API?

Yes PandaDoc will definitely have an API. It's on our priority list.

There are only 1,600 giant pandas left in the world, their numbers cut down by deforestation.

Reminds me of the Cree Indian saying: "Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten."

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