California school district hires firm to monitor students' social media
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-A lot of bad jokes are going to create false positives, which will make teaching staff ignore the warnings they do receive.
-The odds are rather high that a kid will post an orgy of pre-meditations and then do something horrible, but this contractor will either miss it or his warning will be ignored.
-Kids don't like being spied on and will use social networks that aren't monitored. Some geeks might even try encryption or code-talk.
What would I do? Educate children about the importance of getting their friends help when they need it. The people who know kids best are their friends. Compared to this contractor, they won't fall for as many bad jokes nor ignore as many subtle danger signs. Teach children to be good citizens who care about each other rather than carefully tended and monitored potential threats.
I see this article as a fluff/pr/sales bit of writing. The article states nothing about the tech or who supplies the names of the children to be watched. Most of the people on HN can guess the tech. Who is giving the ID of the targets is the interesting bit.
Oh great, he is using Mechanical Turk to watch over students in LA.
It's a shame that given the serious shortage of public school funding in California that spending is done in such a myopic (and frankly, stupid) way. If you really want to build a better school, is adding excessive policing the first thing you should do?
You are very naive about budgets. You should change that if you want to freelance or do a startup. 40k is very little money for them.
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I don't think the problem is lack of surveillance, I think it's teachers who are blind to what's happening at their schools, and parents who are doing a bad job at parenting (exporting it to education).
If a parent listens to their child well, the child will tell them they are being bullied, or have problems. If the child is afraid to, or is ashamed, the parent should notice this. It's not normal behavior. The same goes for teachers. If a parent complains to the school that their child is being bullied, that shouldn't be ignored. If a teacher notices a child being bullied, that shouldn't be laughed off. Children try to seek help by nature.
This seems to be an all-round lack of awareness and care for the child. I don't think technology can do much good with that attitude.
Oh well, I'm sure the students spend at least as much time cyberstalking the teachers as the schools do cyberstalking the students.
Even though no company providing these services can have perfect coverage (not even a perfect coverage of public internet communications), or perfect accuracy (generally it boils down to what you can express with search facets and boolean expressions), they can very aggressively sell the capability to people and organizations, because the 'idea' makes sense, and the fear/need is genuine - maybe there are relevant good/bad things happening out there that we need to know about.
I think this may be the real story here: there are private companies incentivized to sell surveillance of public communications, regardless of end-result quality for the customer, and education is just one of many places where that is relevant.
I don't think this is going to change - we now take for granted that search engines can see what is on the public web, and the same will become true of public social media -- although these tools are (generally) not yet as well known to the public as Google web search.
I'd personally really like to see distributed and private social communications technology to take off, so that this kind of legitimized spying becomes near-irrelevant, and I think there are big opportunities there - but we're not there yet and there'll be some interesting ground to navigate in the meantime.
Well the obvious solution to that is to outlaw privacy.
The only way to solve the problem is to wrest control of the system away from the powerful interests that dominate it today. Unfortunately, a lot of legitimate educators are part of the machine and don't see any other way to make things better other than to continue to feed the machine with the hope that maybe a little bit trickles down to them and the kids.
I was running a small web host at the time and we just happened to host her website, for free of course. She had just moved to the US, gotten her green card and started a job as a teacher.
The school she was working for, or wanted to work for, had investigated her and found her personal website somehow. Even though she was posting under a pseudonym, and the website was hosted in Sweden. I don't remember if it was in Swedish though, maybe not.
They objected to certain things on that website, not sure if it was the BDSM links or something about linking to Amazon.
Either way, she didn't have a computer at the time so all she could do was ask me to take the website down for her.
As I remember it, a lawfirm hade made this discovery on behalf of the school where she wanted to work.
Just use privacy settings on Twitter/Facebook then.