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Hemlock: multi-user, real-time web applications

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I used to think "git" was the worst name in software, but now I have revised my opinion.

And hemlock.com is a printing co. :/

Please don't make XMPP be the next buzz word :(

Hemlock is the Emacs clone built into CMUCL; where I spent the most pleasant times in my 5 years of extended hack-mode ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemlock_(editor)

(ed 'foo) ahhh, they don't make 'em like they used to.

I'm not gonna defend git, but it's pretty damn hard to google for libraries or code written in Io.

Okay, there are different kinds of badness - along the Io lines, I remember the photo gallery perl program called "web album". Couldn't google it for love or money.

The problem with git is that it is the kind of word that seems to (unjustly) infantilise hackers as far as management is concerned.

But hemlock is definitely worse. If you ever had to sit through a gruesome description of Socrate's death, you'd understand my reaction. My Pavlovian response is "Mmmm Hemlock, excruciatingly painful killer of goodness and smartness".

You think that's bad ... try search for help for R ;)

that's really just google's fault for having such weak tech. Not everything in the world is /[a-z0-9]{3,}/

Sounds cool, but why post about something that isn't available yet?

Is there an equivalent technology that doesn't use flash?

Yes, it's a family of technologies called Comet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_%28programming%29

I was interested to read the documentation, but it's not online yet.

I'm way more interested in using Flash only for communicating with XMPP and rather do the rest in HTML/CSS/JavaScript. Also with a fallback to BOSH, so it will work for those without Flash too.

Is there a compelling reason not to use BOSH in the first place? I don't have any practical experience with it.

I have worked a little bit with BOSH using strophe JS. It more work then it should be and it is delicate.

This feels a lot like Juggernaut (Rails plugin) Although its not XMPP based. http://juggernaut.rubyforge.org/

It looks like the server-side stuff will be in Ruby (the About references Ruby inspirations), but I couldn't find anything specific on what you'd code other than XMPP and Flash.

I think this sounds awesome.

However it is odd they didn't link to GitHub or something. Looks like they just launched the site, so hopefully that's coming soon.

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