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non sequitur. Why does beauty imply the existence of an intelligent designer?

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Engineering beauty.

Like a Saturn V rocket, or an AC induction motor.

Things that make you proud to be an engineer.

So that intelligence would be able to feel proud of something? That's a very human concept.

Well, I was just explaining why I used the word beauty.

Maybe whatever created these gears was being tortured by an evil master until it made something satisfactory.

I really can't say for sure...

God cannot feel pride, for that would imply the possibility of failure. God is beyond most human emotions, probably all, for that reason: our emotions imply their opposites, while for God, there are no alternatives other than what is -- which is by definition perfect.

Mind you, I'm an atheist, so this is just my understanding of the argument.

But that's assuming that intelligence fit the definition of a unique, christian like perfect god. Why would it have to be? Isn't it limiting the scope unecessarily?

Absolutely. Christianity is just one possible frame.

It doesn't. In this context, "...that I believe all living things", the words "I believe" can be directly converted to "I have faith without any evidence".

> It is for beauty like this that [I believe][I have faith without any evidence] all living things were originally designed by some intelligence, somewhere.

Looks like this for is as in "because", he is telling you why he belives, because of "beauty like this". You can only say you do not believe this evidence implicates that.

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