SoundCloud and Uploads

Education. Health care. Music. Three industries within which I would never try a startup due to such twisted incentives and resistance. Much respect to those who do try even when they know the odds.

I've magically kept http://80smtv.com alive for 18 months now. I would have sworn it wouldn't last this long without some lawyer taking interest.

I think the reason is that I kept it a hobby and never tried to make a business out of it. Just make it a money pit and you are (probably) fine.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have it exist then be a meal ticket.

PS: If you want the source, I give that away too: https://github.com/kristopolous/emptyv

The original letter which this blog adds little to: http://blog.turntable.fm/post/60847013839/soundcloud-and-upl...

The mashup.fm room I frequent was pretty upset and many have since moved to plug.dj which streams directly from Youtube and SoundCloud in an attempt to not host any music and bypass copyright issues. I wonder how long it can last. Plug.DJ also has international support which TT lacked.

I love Turntable, and it's sad to see this, but it's not a huge surprise; for their whole history they've offered an amazing service and charged well below the true value of the service (they only added ads recently).

I figure we'll soon see a tiered model letting users upload directly for a fee, which is probably a good move.

This is very sad news, they were a darling when they started http://allthingsd.com/20110621/turntable-fm-really-is-awesom... and for the most part of the last year I used to like them mostly their mashup station. But somehow the repetitive nature of the songs being played and the whole idea that as a user, I just want to listen to music and not participate made me switch back to Pandora. I had no idea that they were bleeding internally and reading the news just make me realize that in the start up world you never know when you are in the limelight and when you go in oblivion.

I never could use turntable because I'm in the UK but from what I heard a lot of the rooms ended up with a really narrow focus with people downvoting any music that didn't fit some ultra specific genre.

I've used similar sites that made it much harder to 'reject' songs (Collaborative Jukebox, Listening Room) and the experience is actually much nicer - you get to hear a much wider range of interesting stuff.

Turntable.fm is operating in a tough environment for sure, but I think one mistake they've made is that encouraging people to vote for and against tracks is an obvious feature, but not necessarily a very wise one.

This is a great idea and it's a shame that we've come to this point. I guess the current state of affairs with song copy rights and label groups will claim another start up. I've been using this site since 2011 and only hope for the best but damn if only they could have kept it open internationally.

Always sad to see startups struggle, however turntable.fm seemed like a company that didn't have the best survival chances from the beginning. IMO as a company, it offers to little to justify its existence in the highly competitive marketplace that is online music. It's a cool gimmick, or product at best that could potentially be of greater value if it would be 1) part of a larger eco system (spotify, itunes, etc) or 2) as an experimental, self-sustaining through ad revenue, side project perhaps.

I also might not be part of the core target audience for turntable.fm but my experience (and the people I know who've used it around me) is that after trying it a couple of times the coolness-factor wears off pretty quickly.

"We're Fighting to Keep This Company Alive..."

That's not a quote I can find. When did they actually say this? The title should be changed to reflect this.

Maybe if the super users didn't abuse their privileges they'd keep people around.

Plug.dj easily overtook turntable because it was so much easier to add / manage your playlists. It uses youtube and soundcloud links instead of direct upload, which is obviously easier. I think this is too little too late.

The shame of this is 1) Turntable is still around? Holy cow 2) Never effing heard of Piki

Sounded like a cool product as I read this, but alas, foiled. Not available in Canada.

"We aren't trying to kill it, you are watching us fight for it."

Correction: A bunch of dust balls are watching you fight for it. Most of us don't care. NOW if you were trying to fight cancer, or send a man to Mars on the other hand...