IPhone 5C: C is for Cognitive Illusion
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It's notable there's no black (or 'slate') 5C. I guess if one wants a more 'dignified' (again, a matter of taste) one has to go 5S.
I commend to all the interesting Steve Jobs quote found at the end of the comment by markwilcox:
"What ruined Apple was not growth … They got very greedy … Instead of following the original trajectory of the original vision, which was to make the thing an appliance and get this out there to as many people as possible … they went for profits. They made outlandish profits for about four years. What this cost them was their future. What they should have been doing is making rational profits and going for market share." - Steve Jobs.
As a long-time Apple fan and former shareholder I'll be very interested to see how this pans out.
The 8GB N4 is £159. You can grab it from here https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_4_8_GB?i...
Only thing I'm disappointed in is the camera, but that's why I have my Canon.
This seems to be a problem. Hmm buy the inferior product, or spend a mere 3 weeks service to buy the top of the line. Duh I'll buy the top of the line. If I wanted to save money I'd just get an android phone from Republic Wireless for $19 like VLM did on Hacker News (I'm a happy customer). Therefore since I'm already contemplating the 2nd most expensive option out there, and possibly the 2nd best option out there, may as well pay a tiny bit more for the best one.
If I want to blow $30 on an expensive bottle of wine, there's no way in hell I'm paying $31 for an inferior bottle sitting next to a superior $32 bottle. If I wanted to save money I wouldn't participate in that market anyway.
And that is the marketing plan I think they're using. I don't think they'll sell any of the cheaper ones.
iPhone 5S: $1,160 over two years iPhone 5C: $1,060 over two years
I go to ATT.com, click on wireless and the cheapest contract voice is $40/month and the cheapest data is $20/month and I'm continually informed I'm the only living human being who doesn't text, so thats another $20/month plus taxes. So thats $80/month for the absolute minimum. 300 megs of data a month? Really? I don't think you could keep up with app updates alone much less actually "do" anything with only 300 megs/month. So you're more realistically $90 for 3 gigs or $110 for 5 gigs, before taxes of course.
I only download or update apps on my home Wifi connection though, and I use Opera browser which does a lot of caching.
BTW I'm still amazed at the incredibly expensive plans in the U.S. (there are lots of threads here with comparisons, and the U.S. is among the most expensive). I pay USD 20/month for my contract (voice + SMS, and we don't pay for incoming calls, caller pays) plus USD 5 per 384 megabytes.
Edit: link to one of the previous discussions
More realistically, she already has a plan with a monthly payment. Which she is not even considering at this point. All she cares is how much it will cost her right now. $100 could make a difference.
You probably don't want to have automatic over the air app updates enabled. In fact, I'm not even sure if that's an option. Honestly, 300 MB/month would be sufficient for most months even for me, and I'm a fairly heavy user on LTE. I pay for the 2GB plan mostly to cover months where my usage peaks. I suspect that 8 months a year I use less than 300 MB/month, and I use iTunes Match, occasional video streaming, and occasional Facetime calls.
Pricing it low would have the effect of short term financial gain but at the expense of commoditising the iPhone's brand. Which would make people far less willing to spend the extra money on the 5S (which has the larger margins).
When you get to the $850 iPhone with 64GB of memory, the profit margin is generally around 75%.
As in, it costs them $215 to make a $850 device.
Apple rarely dips below 40% margin on it's products it seems.
Now that Apple has over $100,000,000,000.00 in it's little hedge fund and has become the largest fund in the world (iirc), I've begun to look at the iPhone as the worlds most successful hedge fund capital raising scheme.
That's a western male perspective. In Asia (including India), adults will jump to get those colors. (And women in the West too).
They might 'jump to get' good value for money. The IPhones have never been seen as good value for money in the Indian market, and have truly miniscule market share. Bright colors won't help.
These kind of generalizations - emerging market customers are fools who can be bamboozled by bright colored cases and very expensive phones that are one generation (or more) behind the truly cutting edge phones - shows Apple is clueless about how to succeed in emerging markets. Which is ok - they can stick to America/Europe and make tonnes of money.
We'll see in a year or two if they can crack the Chinese markets, with these plastic phones. I doubt it somehow.
Your contribution was to declare which opinions belong to each sexist grouping you architected. You have said, "Your opinion is a western male one," but I doubt you know PP's origin, so you are shooting in the dark.
You have said, "Asians are like _this_. Women are like _that_. Men are like _this_. Indians are _that_." That is prejudicial, and even worse, normative, behavior by you, compelling others to conform. If I were an Asian adult who didn't like the colors, your comments might make me feel hurt right now, whereas PP's comment was acceptable.
Conjecture: these will be the free-with-contract phones next year, and something else will occupy the $100 slot.
I genuinely think this opinion might be the result of a filter bubble or its "real life" equivalent. I don't care for the bright colors personally, but I think the white 5c looks excellent (a black one would be even better). I still prefer the metal casing (plus the tech specs are important to me), so I'll choose the 5s if I decide to upgrade, but I can absolutely understand why a huge portion of potential buyers would prefer the plastic case, especially people who aren't particularly concerned with having the most blazing new chip or the fingerprint sensor. In fact, even among gadget geeks, I can see many choosing the plastic design specifically because it is plastic. I have heard a lot of disappointment about the fragility of metal iPhones since the debut of the iPhone 4.
Apple has always had products for higher end and lower end markets as soon as that product becomes established. iPod video (I know that's not the formal name) came out at roughly the same time as the Nano and shuffle. MacBook Pro had MacBook. iPad and iPad mini. Mac Pro and iMac. This isn't new, it's just the first time it's been so deliberate and noticeable.
So we have a brand with experience in segmenting approaching a market that has already been segmented by competitors. Not such an interesting story.
It seems that Apple has done this out of market demand (of course they did, any company would rather have one clutch device over a smorgasbord), but with the 5C still being a high-end feature phone, why'd they do it? I'm guessing they are just creating a foundation for a radical iPhone 6?
The iPhone 5c is Johnny Ive's first shot at a decidedly Ive version of the iPhone.
In either case, launching an extra device because your designer wants to put their stamp on the world seems like an absolutely awful business strategy.
It's hardly even that though, at least relative to the product lineups of competitors. For one, the size itself is virtually identical. As the author mentions, the 5c differs very little from the 5 apart from the plastic colorful case. Apple could reasonably maintain to assert the philosophy of "one size fits all," because the form factor and feature set of all their models are still virtually identical, just like they were before the introduction of the 5c.
Also, "iPod Video" actually was the formal name used for the fifth-generation iPod.
I suspect that as the mobile phone landscape changes, the iPhone 5C will begin feeling more obsolete, and it will then be relegated to the level of n-1 offering, and all attention will then go to the iPhone 6, which should presumably be a huge leap in innovation and design.
Apple has never been able to make enough iPhones of each successive generation for people to get their hands on during the first few months after release. Whereas, once they've ramped up production, they tend to have all these parts left over in the pipeline[1] that they have to sell off as N-1 gen hardware to price-sensitive late adopters. (This is also why the iPod Touch was originally created, to serve as a sink for N-2-gen parts.)
Now, Apple are trying to shift the purchase frenzy to the N-1 gen, and position their new gen-N tech -- whose production hasn't yet been ramped up -- as something for early-adopters only. In other words, to switch from an (N-1, N) view of the world, to an (N, N+1) view.
Everything in the S will filter down to the C of the next gen. They'll get their pipelines saturated with 5S parts just in time to wrap them in plastic and call them 6C parts. As long as more people buy Cs than Ss, this works out perfectly.
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[1] By "in the pipeline", I mean the more general "economically incentivized to produce units of, instead of units of the new model, by contractual obligations to factories, training costs of factory workers, etc." Apple actually keeps their literal pipeline of hardware-produced-but-not-yet-shipped-as-a-product quite low.
The one quibble I would have is that I'm not sure that all of the new tech will filter down in the next generation. That's the way they've done it before, but it could be that they change that after the split.
I'm thinking of the fingerprint scanner mostly. I could see that remaining a premium option for a few years. We'll have to wait until next september to find out for sure though.
Screen sizing is the only place the iPhone might show weakness. Apple is holding the line on smaller phones... we'll see if it continues to work out for them.
Smartphones are becoming cheaper; Apple cannot hang on to the iPhone's profit margins forever. As it ignores the trend it risks creating a generation of smartphone users not in the Apple ecosystem. It's happening right now.
Apple is going in with a high price on the 5C to keep the brand solid and scoop up profits from early adopters who will just have to have the latest pretty colored iPhone.
My guess is that the 5C's price will erode much faster than the 5S. Apple will do its best to balance the mix to ensure that the product is sold and out there.
There is no point in Apple introducing a brand new truly low cost iPhone because such a device would by necessity only be in the market for a short time before it would get obsoleted. The 5C is set to be manufactured for the next 3 years, so they will extract maximum scale effects and maximum sales volume over the lifetime of the device.
The 'C' may well stand for 'Cheap', but not now. It stands for where it will be positioned over it's lifetime. Other manufacturers bring out a new device and only care about it for maybe 6 months, after which they're on to the new thing and ready to forget the old one ever existed. Apple thinks really long term about their device's full economic life cycle.
For example the iPad Mini was criticism for being too expensive, but that was taking a short term view. I fully expect the current mini to continue to be manufactured at a lower price point for another year, cutting off the air supply to the cut price Android tablet market, but Apple is in no hurry to get to that point.
That phrase doesn't mean what you think it means. It has nothing to do with planning for a long product life.
"Where the puck is going" is towards affordable off-contract phones and cheaper carrier monthly costs. The 5C is Apple doubling down on the carrier subsidy model. It's the model that makes the 5C seem competitively priced.
It's ironic because Apple is often credited as standing against carrier power, when in reality the status quo is exactly what will allow Apple to keep making those legendary profit margins on iPhones.
Once unsubsidized becomes the norm (as started by T-Mobile and now being adopted by others) they're going to be forced to compete on price at the expense of margins. They can stay exclusively on the high end if they want, but the high is going to be ~300-400 at most.
That's where the puck is going. Selling a 2012-grade 5C for competitive price in 2015 is not "where the puck is going".
It means acting now to best position yourself for the future.
I absolutely agree with you that affordable off-contract phones are going to be a big part of the future. Previous iPhones were premium products that were too expensive to manufacture for that to be viable, but the 5C is designed to be much cheaper to make. While it's selling at premium prices now it's far, far better positioned to become a strong medium end product in future.
IMO what we're seeing is only relevant in the developed world. The 5C is being priced as the slightly-cheaper-but-not-by-much alternative to the 5S. But this isn't why the 5C exists - IMO the 5C exists largely because of the developing world, where Apple has the freedom to separate the price points by a much wider gap than in the US/EU.
I'd expect that the 5C-5S price difference to be much more dramatic in China than in the US.
[1]h ttp://www.zdnet.com/cn/new-iphones-a-price-disappointment-in-china-7000020527/
“Under the old model the n-1 variant was meant to be a modest volume contributor to the portfolio, being essentially a cognitive illusion which encouraged buyers to stick with iPhone n at the expense of competitors. However, the new n-1 product (the 5C) has a distinct positioning that makes it seem fresh and not a lesser, stale version of the flagship. It is designed to appeal as a legitimate upgrade for iPhone 4/4S users. It is, in other words, _not_ meant as an illusion, and not focusing attention on the flagship[3]. Rather, it is meant to be a genuine, core product.”
IOW, the iPhone 4 vs 4S was cognitive illusion, the iPhone 5C vs 5S is not cognitive illusion. So, C is not for Cognitive Illusion.
Opposite headline is better link bait, though.
The MacBook was also more expensive than the competition, however consumers (even students) paid up.
Arguably the price difference wasn't as extreme, but I'd be surprised if Apple didn't lower the price to $499 or less, and announce a white+black models of 5C very soon.
However, I'd argue that the main reason consumers bought the Macbook was not the Apple brand, but the vast gap between OS X and Windows XP. They bought into the operating system, and that's what drove sales of other Apple products from then on, because after all, that iPhone/iPod works better with a Mac.
Fast-forward to now, Apple's competitor isn't MS Windows. It's Android, which doesn't cost a premium the way Windows did, and is arguably not inferior to iOS.
OS X was more "open" compared to Windows, and not just due to its Unix underpinnings. It didn't come with pre-packaged software and DRM restrictions, but it did come with better software. It didn't force you to consume content the Microsoft way, it embraced developers creating great apps like VLC without charging them.
No more. iOS is a walled garden, even more so than Windows ever was. Sure Google isn't a saint in that regard, and yet Android encourages competition. It has no issue with Amazon's Kindle app selling e-books. It has no issue with developers writing apps to replace "core functions". It knows that selling 10 units with a 10% margin is better than selling 1 unit with a 20% margin. It's thinking long-term.
I still love Apple for its design and attention to product detail, but if their greed and hubris continues to escalate, history may just repeat itself.
If the iPhone 5C had the same core components as the 5S I would get it instead because the plastic is probably more durable and I'd like a colorful device as a change of pace from the white and silver Apple products I own currently.
Look at the design of Sony products over the past 50 years. The design has changed radically. Heck, even look at the Apple design language over the past decade or so.
Things change. Everyone thought that OS X 10.0 looked very stylish at the time...now it looks dated.
And the 5S might have an amazing camera, but otherwise I don't see why I'm supposed to want it.
As long as the spending trend continues, developers will continue delivering products for the platform.
Not even sure how Apps fit into the car analogy, but they sure as hell aren't even fuel, maybe accessories or tires?
You're right - a car analogy just don't fly.
It is a deliberate move and the key is now to understand why they did it.
Of course the issue in this argument is the App store. You could argue that by building a huge user base could allow you to shift your profits from hardware to software in the long run.
I'd also look to Intel and Microsoft if I was wondering where the profit in the PC market went. I'm guessing your figures for PC profit don't include the little known Wintel duo?
The interesting relationship isn't between the price of the 5C and the 5S, it's between the price of the 4S and 5C. It seems to be targeting people who would have bought a 4S, not people who wouldn't have bought an iPhone at all.
And the one when he says Android will never have more than 15% of the market... (currently at 80%) and certainly never more than Microsoft (currently 3.7%).
And any when he mentions open source, which he doesn't understand at all.