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Then try Anaconda[0], I haven't had any problems with it so far and it includes IPython and most scientific libraries a Python programmer needs.

0: https://store.continuum.io/cshop/anaconda/

Cheers, that looks really interesting. I usually use pythonxy[0] nowadays on operating systems without package managers, but I'll give that a go next time.

0: https://code.google.com/p/pythonxy/

You can actually install it alongside Python(x,y), though I get you don't need two Python installs. But at least you can experiment with some of Anaconda's interesting features, without breaking Python(x,y).

I don't know why sagemath leaves such bad taste in my mouth. In principle it's very cool project.

One reason I find Sage cumbersome is that it forces me to have many things installed twice; once standalone, once as part of Sage: Scipy, IPython, Numpy... Sage should figure out a way of using dependencies, like any other package.

blutack, I apologize for the trouble you got with EPD. If you can spare a few minutes to explain me the pb, I will try to understand what went wrong (see my HN page for contact)