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Awesome, Django might be usable out of the box now. :)

Yes, for people who couldn't type

    pip install south

That's why I specified "out of the box." It doesn't make sense for there to be completely mandatory extensions like South -- they should be bundled in, fitting with the "batteries included" culture of Python.

I don't really feel out of the box when I type

    pip install django south

Regrettably, how you feel doesn't change the well-understood and long-standing definition of "out of the box."

You have to A) know about this ridiculously named package called "south" and B) remember to install it everytime though. That's why it's not "out of the box".

Here, Google even backs us up on this - https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+out+of+the+box

"Out of the box is the term used to denote items, functionalities, or features that do not require any additional installation. ..." - via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_the_box

South didn't (really) support Oracle, which is a django officially supported backend. I know there aren't many django users using Oracle - comparatively - but south wasn't a perfect solution.

django-extensions is still missing, especially the shell_plus and runscript commands.

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