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I don't think it was necessary to be in NYC at the time to have been deeply affected by 9/11, but no matter: I, the guy who wrote this article, and 310m other non-NYC Americans still have to live under the draconian post-9/11 regime, regardless of where we were on that day.

Also, "casual observer"? Really?

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> Also, "casual observer"? Really?

Yes, really. Shit happens around the world all the time. Just because your media and government tried to make all Americans feel like they were under attack, these were isolated incidents that affected few Americans. (In fact, the people most affected are the countless innocent civilians murdered by reactionary war in the middle east.)

I don't think going through more stringent checks when you fly qualify for "pain and horror". I mainly ask because you're using "the pain and horror" experienced by actual 9/11 victims and their families as leverage to add validity to your statement, and I don't really agree with it.

I see--so only the victims and families were emotionally traumatized by this incident? That does not even merit refutation.

Truthfully, I don't see why you'd be significantly more traumatized by this event than any other act of terrorism that happens across the globe unless you lost loved ones. To that end, I don't see why anyone else on this globe should have been any less affected, thus making the point that you happened to be an American at the same time that 9/11 occurred more or less moot.

If the pain is simply an empathy to the innocents who were harmed, I don't see why it should be unique to you as an American and worthy of pointing out and using as leverage. I'm not in a position to tell you or anyone else how they should feel...I just don't really understand the rationale.

I am not going to sit here and explain to you the concept of (emotional, geographic) proximity. If I am correct in surmising that you are trying to pick a fight about Americans feeling "special" compared to the rest of the world (which I sure don't), you'll need to find some other sparring partner. Cheers.

I was born, raised, and have lived in the NYC area my entire life and continue to do so to this day. I assure you I'm familiar with the proximity to the event. This is not me trying to pick a fight about my fellow Americans feeling "special". It's me calling you out on your attempt to leverage a very real and significant pain felt by victims and their families for your talking points. When you say "_the_ pain and horror", you are (whether intentional or not) referencing the primary pain felt - that of those directly and most significantly affected by 9/11. In doing so, you dilute the gravity that referencing that pain carries for true victims. It's like a veteran who spent all his time behind a desk claiming that, as a vet, he had gone through horrors during the war, when there were in fact men and women who were on the verge of death on the front lines experiencing actual horror.

In reality, there was no need to use that statement. If your point is valid, it should stand on its own merits without the need for you to attempt to convince through emotion by answering a question that nobody was asking.

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