Ask HN: Avoidance of Java - problem or pattern?
In my case this comes from a few factors:
1) Past experiences with projects that went overly "Enterprise" with layers of abstraction that eventually turn the project into quicksand - once you enter you get sucked in never to escape.
2) Code that is excessively verbose, due in part to the nature of the language. It was once said that concise languages ruin your taste for others [1]. When you just want to get stuff done, patience for boilerplate wanes fast.
3) The JVM while an engineering marvel (to some), can be difficult to keep memory consumption in check, and emits some of the most unpleasant exception information I have seen (1000 line stack traces from a single JDBC fault). I have come to prefer an interpreter or a compiler, but not something in between.
The question comes from a regular experience of seeing interesting F/OSS projects get announced, followed my an immediate lack of interest once the terms "Java" or "JVM" are mentioned. This symptom carries into JVM based languages.
Am I being completely unreasonable, or is this a common malady?
[1] http://lukeplant.me.uk/blog/posts/why-learning-haskell-python-makes-you-a-worse-programmer/