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> Also, if you do this, it has to be at a company where the environment and the work you do isn't toxic, but rather something you enjoy. While I was at another company doing work I really didn't like, I thought to myself that I'd compensate by working on a side project. I was only fooling myself, because when I got home I was so bored, tired, and frustrated that I had no energy to do anything technical. Different personality types might cope differently, though.

Absolutely. I stayed too long at a defense contractor where the environment was a slow-drip toxin that eventually sapped my will to do anything outside work not related to history or wargaming. Throw in anxiety and personal issues I refused to seek help for due to the stigma of psychological treatment in a secure environment, and I was a mess. I'm in a better place now, but still recovering from the low point.

You make some good points, Austinz. I start with the thought of "What kind of life do I want to live?" and then go from there to figure out how much I need to make to make it happen. Then, any money made above that goes into savings or investing or back into a side project. The goal, for me, is to get to the place I want to be and then I will never go out on my own without the business to support it.

I think what you say about toxicity is really interesting. If it's not toxic, it depends on the person if they want to put up with it.

I'm slowly learning which one I am. I think I can put up with it, but I don't want to.

Big companies get a lot of flack from us startup geeks when in reality, they can provide the best learning and mentorship for continued growth. As with everything, it all depends on the company and your personal preference.