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CloudEmailApp completely rips off Mailgun

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41 pointsjazzychad23 comments

I'm guessing this is an exact copy because they are trying to trick mailgun customers into trying to login with their actual credentials.

I tried "signing up" and got:

"Thank You We will contact you shortly"

I then tried signing up with the exact same information and again got the same response. I don't think anything on this site actually works. It just seems like a method of collecting information.

this is disgusting and potentially very harmful to everybody

there should be a place where you can check if anybody is ripping off your site/design to steal email addresses/accounts from your users

CloudEmailApp, Email service for kittens: http://cloudemailapp.com/

Mirror, if they take it down: http://750322650ec57ab9eca9-fe441ee6e1637528269eb3ca9702d9e7...

I like cats

That's hilarious!

For people who don't understand what's going on, you might use a browser extension that blocks external JavaScript. In my case, Ghostery was blocking the Optimizely script so I was seeing the normal page.

Mailgun changed their Optimizely config to switch all images to kittens and text to kitten-related copy. Well played.

I clicked the link expecting to roll my eyes over the hyperbole but no, no that's pretty much a complete rip-off.

For comparison: http://www.mailgun.com/

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and Registrars. Domain Name: CLOUDEMAILAPP.COM Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com Updated Date: 2013-06-20 10:37:36 Creation Date: 2012-08-06 09:04:01 Registrar Expiration Date: 2014-08-06 09:04:01 Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC Registrant Name: Valentine Orehov Registrant Organization: Registrant Street: 175 Varick St. #646 Registrant City: New York Registrant State/Province: New York Registrant Postal Code: 10013 Registrant Country: United States Admin Name: Valentine Orehov Admin Organization: Admin Street: 175 Varick St. #646 Admin City: New York Admin State/Province: New York Admin Postal Code: 10013 Admin Country: United States Admin Phone: +1.6462574133 Admin Fax: Admin Email: val@cloudemailapp.com Tech Name: Valentine Orehov Tech Organization: Tech Street: 175 Varick St. #646 Tech City: New York Tech State/Province: New York Tech Postal Code: 10013 Tech Country: United States Tech Phone: +1.6462574133 Tech Fax: Tech Email: val@cloudemailapp.com Name Server: NS3.OPTIMIZINGVIDEO.COM Name Server: NS4.OPTIMIZINGVIDEO.COM

175 Varick, as stated in their footer, is the SoHo West building for WeWorkLabs, my old incubator.

That's just messed up, I'm going to send this to some of the guys still there and see what's happening.

There is even identical copy on the FAQ: http://documentation.mailgun.com/faqs.html#why-not-just-use-... http://documentation.cloudemailapp.com/faqs.html#why-not-jus...

Pathetic... on the plus side, I'd be surprised if they can rip off all the cool stuff Mailgun does on the backend to improve deliverability.

My favorite part is the link to Twitter in their footer that just takes you to Twitter's homepage.

I'm not sure if I should be amazed at the sheer level of apathy these guys portray or angered.

Raised it with Mailgun's chat support so they're aware.

Looks like a cut and dry copyright violation.

wow. they work in my building in wework.

CloudEmailApp, Inc. 175 Varick St. 6th Floor New York, NY 10013

even the art assets are named the same -- not to mention the html structure, etc.

Oh, it's even better than that. If you look at the cloudemailapp source code, the client testimonials list from the mailgun source is there, just commented out:

Line 188:

  <!--<h2>
  Customers 
    <a href="customers/index.html" class="btn">case studies</a>
  </h2>

  <div class="paper customers">
    <div class="stage1">
      <img src="static/img/logos/yc.png" alt="YC" />
      <img src="static/img/logos/uservoice.png" alt="Uservoice" />
      <img src="static/img/logos/colourlovers.png" alt="Colorlovers" />
      <img src="static/img/logos/ft.png" alt="FT" />
      <img src="static/img/logos/everyblock.png" alt="everyblock" />
    </div>
  </div>-->

They also are using the exact same generated Optimizely JS file on line 9.

What's really shocking is this doesn't seem like just a copy of the site -- it's like a copy of the entire product, which is really amazing. I have to wonder if it even works...

they're even loading mailgun's javascript from CDN:

mailgun:

    <head>
      <script src="https://cdn.optimizely.com/js/32694127.js"></script>
      <title>Mailgun: No contracts, cancel anytime</title>

cloudemailapp:

    <head>
      <script src="https://cdn.optimizely.com/js/32694127.js"></script>
      <title>CloudEmailApp: No contracts, cancel anytime</title>

if i was mailgun, i'd be updating that script file to detect the domain and forward visitors to mailgun.net

its the us version of rocket internet/sawmer bros?

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