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It feels like OSX will be on Mavericks before the Lion scroll bars are supported in Firefox.

I've been using Safari a lot lately. Only thing I'm not crazy about is the inspector. It's easily the worst of all the browsers, but at least they are fixing that in the next update.

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> It feels like OSX will be on Mavericks before the Lion scroll bars are supported in Firefox.

I use Nightly so I've had the new scroll bars for quite a while now, so I'm inclined to believe they'll be landing sooner rather than later.

That's interesting - I prefer Safari's web inspector to any other browser... The updates look cool, but currently I find it way more useful than Firefox or Chrome's inspectors.

It drives me crazy it can't remember where I'm at when I refresh and then automatically collapses the code, too.

If you know a way around that, I would love to know.

Just out of curiosity, why Safari?

I also use Safari on a daily basis, with Chrome when testing web apps.

- iClouds tab sync

- quite fast

- two-finger swipe for back/forward with nice "cover" effect

- scrolling is silky smooth*

- iCloud keychain*

* available on Mavericks. Scrolling was good enough earlier, but on Mavericks its butter smooth.

I just don't like Chrome, for one. But, I really like the scrolling, pinch to zoom, swipe to go backwards, bookmark syncing across my multiple computers, etc.

The inspector, as flawed as it is, has some nice features. I don't have Mavericks, but I believe these updates are coming: https://www.webkit.org/blog/2518/state-of-web-inspector/

It blows the other browsers away in scrolling performance on a retina display laptop. Chrome has gotten a lot better recently, but it's still worse enough that it's worth putting up with Safari's weaknesses.

UI is just way better than anything else out there

UI feels and IS more native than anything else out there

Performance is better than Firefox and only worse than Chrome in beta technologies and a few edge cases

I prefer Safari because it integrates into the Apple ecosystem, including e.g. iCloud tabs, Keychain integration, gesture support; because it's a native application; because it's perfectly performant; because it doesn't phone home. I don't write web applications or even use many, so my needs are well satisfied.

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