'WWIII Queen's speech' script revealed
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I think it's in Generation X that one character describes "waiting for the flash". The idea that the sudden destruction of everything was an ever present background thought. In the book Coupland defines the term "Mental Ground Zero" for where you imagined you'd be when it happened. For me it was always on a train traveling between two cities that no longer exist.
For anyone with a morbid curiosity over nuclear war, THREADS is worth a watch too. I didn't learn about it until very recently but supposedly it was on prime time British TV in 1984 and scared the bejeezus out of everyone in its rendition of what might happen to the UK in the case of nuclear war. It's also on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MCbTvoNrAg
I think it shook up the teachers more than us, but I guess that's to be expected. We were too young to really have felt the paranoia of the times.
I watched it again a couple of years ago. It's amazing to think about how close we actually came to nuclear war not so long ago and now we're in a position where people can campaign for self disarmament of nuclear weapons.
A real attack in the UK might have been far worse than the one shown in Threads!
The thing I took away from Threads is that as soon as you see the mushroom cloud, it's in your interest to ensure that you die as soon as possible.
I've just remembered the final scene. :(
e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_Leg
For those interested in UK government cold war planning I can strongly recommend Peter Hennessy's book "The Secret State: Preparing for the Worst 1945-2010":
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Secret-State-Whitehall-Cold/dp/0...
One particularly chilling part describes how early UK estimates thought that it would only take a small number of H-bombs to destroy the UK as a functioning society, resulting in the following:
"Hennessy tells the story of a jokey 1961 encounter between Khrushchev and the British Ambassador, Frank Roberts. The Soviet leader asked how many H-bombs Roberts thought would be needed to wipe out the UK. ‘Six’, he replied. Khrushchev chided him for his pessimism. He said that ‘optimists’ estimated it would take nine — but reassured him with a twinkle that the Soviet General Staff… had earmarked several scores of bombs for use against the UK so that the Soviet Union had a higher opinion of the UK’s resistance capacity than the UK itself."
[Militaries have lots of weird plans for strange events that could probably never happen].
NB The UK had plans to attack US bases here to get our hands on nuclear weapons if there was any sign that the US didn't want to get directly involved in a war - no idea why anyone would find it surprising that such plans were considered!
Which is the 'buffer zone' doctrine taken to extremes:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/ir2/so...
> Twenty million Russians died during the Second World War, so Stalin said he wanted a buffer zone of friendly states around Russia to make sure that Russia could never be invaded again.
And, of course, pre-Soviet Russia had been invaded multiple times, often by people who did a lot of damage before they realized they'd forgotten to pack for winter. It's part of having large land borders.
I used to get sudden moments of fear that the 'flash' could happen at that particular moment when it struck. I can vividly remember these happening when I was a teenager.
Looking back it was a terrible thing to grow up with, a constant fear of immediate death without warning.
Somehow while the danger is still present the immediacy of the fear has waned as I have gotten older. Although now I worry about my children it's more of a vague worry about their future than a immediate pressing fear of a the 'flash'.
I wasn't afraid of dying; I was afraid of surviving.
"In a full nuclear exchange, in the paroxysm of global death, the equivalent of a million Hiroshimas would be dropped all over the world. And, in such an exchange not everyone would be killed by the blast and the fire storm and the immediate radiation. There would be other agonies. The loss of loved ones; the legions of the burned and blinded and mutilated; disease; plague; long-lived radiation poisoning the soil and the water; the threat of stillbirths and malformed children; and, the hopeless sense of a civilization destroyed for nothing. The knowledge that we could have prevented it and did nothing."
http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/sagan-carl_who-speak...
I found the idea of being someone left around with "the hopeless sense of a civilization destroyed for nothing" particularly appalling.
(Then I went to university in London. Enough said.)
It's interesting how much of the art and music of the 1980s was influenced by this existential terror of sudden annihilation, and how little resonance songs like "The Final Countdown" (by Europe) or "Dancing with Tears in my Eyes" (Ultravox) and similar have for folks aged under 30.
The film itself is terribly bleak, I'm glad to have not consciously lived through always worrying of nuclear war.
I tell people this, and the younger ones never believe me, but I genuinely believed that I would never live to be an adult.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testament_(film)
I don't expect to live past my twenties. It isn't hard to believe that somebody on one side of a two sided prelude to a nuclear war could be nervous about their survival prospects.
A "dot with math" is unlikely to also have the ability to make a machine that can move.
Everyone is worried about unfriendly AI - all you have to do is put that unfriendly AI in a computer without the ability to affect the physical world. (Also no network.)
Give it only a screen, and a video camera. It can be as unfriendly as it likes.
It's a computer program, not magic.
...but this is all assuming high-level side-channels. There are things you can do using the acoustics available in spinning hard disks that can produce any sort of resonance you like. I would imagine that, much in the same way a modern-day scientist could go go back to 300AD and still be able to construct a crystal radio just out of some spare bits of metal laying about (it's not a hard problem, just a theory you need to know to even think of approaching the problem that way), a sufficiently-advanced intelligence might be able to just do nanoscale assembly of whatever it likes using coalesced heat radiating off your RAM chips.
I guess if you believe in magic there is nothing left to talk about.
It doesn't require superhuman intelligence to try any of that, yet hackers have not managed it. People have played songs on a drive, and made a computer make noise on a radio, but going from there to anything else has never happened.
For example, sonoluminescence: using pressure waves to do fusion. It's a startling effect, but once you know the theory (that bubbles at neutral pressure in a medium settle into a low-energy state of being perfect spheres; and that collapsing a perfect sphere of material inward causes fusion), it's pretty easy to make a device using ordinary high-level physics that can achieve the effect. In fact, it's so easy that evolution came up with a way to let shrimp make these perfectly-spherical bubbles just by banging their claws together, so as to use the resultant fusion reaction as a stunner weapon.
I have a hard time reconciling the idea that we just keep learning about the existence of things like that as we keep throwing Basic Science research at the problem, with the idea that an AI of the http://lesswrong.com/lw/qk/that_alien_message/ variety wouldn't be able to figure out one or two that would let it use the (predictable!) effects of its computation on its own computational substrate to manipulate its environment--at least with the sloppy way we design computational substrates now, where we don't take such things into effect.
Here's an analogy: say we made a self-improving AI with a biological substrate--in the shape of a human being, say--and then locked it in a cage in a straitjacket. The "self-improving" part would imply only that it could change the organization of its own synapses within its head. Yet, still, don't you think it could organize those synapses into a shape so as to manipulate the chemicals and proteins that pass through the brain? It'd be pretty simple, if I could re-organize my brain, to stimulate the growth of misfolded proteins ala a Prion disease--but an AI could target specific misfoldings--or rather, chosen new foldings--and then build up new biological structures from the new proteins. All it would need at that point, in this scenario, is to create something roughly like a "spore"--a container filled with a retrovirus containing its own DNA, to infect another host, or perhaps a seed that could land and grow on its own--and get it out of its body and airborne.
Computers, as they are now, are no less leaky than that. Probably moreso, given that they haven't "evolved" for millions of years under an environment where external agents are constantly trying to exploit them. (Anti-virus programs would not know what to do with even the technological equivalent of a simple virus like HIV, let alone something where each cell-actor is individually intelligent.)
We could probably build a "safe box" -- an enclosure electromagnetically, gravitationally, thermally, and whatever other -ly sealed from the outside envrionment; stick a computer in that box with an architecture that is designed to unavoidably self-destruct in two ways, one representing a 0 bit and one representing a 1, and with no way of encoding further information in the configuration of the debris; and then put an AI on that machine, set to start up after the "seal" is activated with a question for it already in place, and only "unseal" the enclosure after the destruction of the machine is already complete. (If the AI figures out a way to turn off the computer's self-destruct, we just never unseal the enclosure; the enclosure would necessarily have to failsafe to a sealed state, rather than requiring active reinforcement.) Then, maybe, it would be safe to run the self-improving AI in the box. But I wouldn't be sure.
Of course, this is assuming we aren't ourselves running in a Simulation with exploitable low-level rules, and that the AI wouldn't just rather "escape the box" by escaping the universe. ;)
Please read [0], [1], and [2] (good story with very relevant ending), and let's talk about it again:
[0] - http://yudkowsky.net/singularity/power
But all of this assumes there is someplace to let the AI out to! But first you would have to build it a hand, or get it a network card or something.
Make a box without any IO. Even if you wanted to, there is no place to connect anything (unless you rebuilt it).
OTOH, if you want to do anything useful with an AI, you need to provide it with data (input) and a way to show result (output). And with sufficiently smart AI, per [1] and [2], at this point you're fair game.
Basically you need to assume that (superhuman) AI will utilize any available side channel to further its goals. And there's a lot it could do with even a simplest of them. The lesson of today's technology that many miss is that you can do pretty much everything and every system can be exploited in thousands of more or less elaborate ways. We don't see them often because there is usually an easy and cheap method we stick to. We don't see "pretty much everything" being done, because it's usually too expensive to care. But if someone needs it, it can be done.
See also: side-channel attacks, hacker-style practical jokes.
Yes, and then what?
> I'll leave it to your imagination what an AI could do with that.
Why think about AI? Why not imagine what I can do with that? Which is almost nothing because the range of those transmissions is measured in inches.
All of this is academic because it assumes the AI would design a new smarter AI - which of course we could not let it do since we wouldn't be able to trust the design.
So all you have is a first generation AI and if we're lucky it might just possibly approach human intelligence.
Err... that was the assumption that started the debate--that someone will be both smart enough to code an AI, and clever enough to code it with the ability to self-modify, and stupid enough to do that without adding any guides for what it should be self-modifying toward.
If you don't assume that the ratchet-effect of Positivist scientific progress allows for the existence of such a person (in that they'd only be taking the current literature of their time and adding one last little insight, so they don't have to be superintelligent enough to catch their error in advance), then we're having different arguments here.
I think this is a very reasonable assumption. It would be very difficult to just flat-out write a human-level AI, but it might be a little less difficult to start with a somewhat dumb AI with an ability to improve itself.
But the Cold War was real. Real life has a quality that's hard to appreciate unless you've lived through it.
"The speech, devised by Whitehall officials at one of the most fraught Cold War periods..."
Seems like you would probably get on just fine with a fabricated character played by an actress, who is charismatic enough. Say, "Big Sister"
I'm not having a pop at Americans, but it may make sense to view the queen as a symbol in the same way that the flag is for Americans. It's just that our symbol happens to be a person.
Also, the Queen ties us back to stuff like Henry V and Agincourt etc.
If I am feeling particularly generous I tend to agree with Samuel Johnson that "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."
The rest of the time I am more aligned with Ambrose Bierce's version from The Devil's Dictionary.
“Patriotism, n. Combustible rubbish ready to the torch of any one ambitious to illuminate his name. In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit it is the first.”
[Edit: Strong general recommendation for that book, by the way. If it were not in a low-status genre, parts of it would be taught in high schools.]
That's what happens, anyhow. Read the book, Max Brooks does it a lot better than I just did from a three year old memory. There is also a very brief meditation by the character being interviewed by the frame narrator to the effect that the monarch is the custodian of the soul of Britain in a way that the Yanks just can't understand. Literary criticism: I would have struck that sentence because the book shows that powerfully and it is weaker for then saying the moral explicitly.
Excellent way of putting it. That is pretty much what she (or he) is.
I would highly recommend checking out the audiobook even if you've read the dead tree version. It is a different, but equally enjoyable, experience.
I went through a vehement anti-monarchy phase when I was younger, since then I'm starting to appreciate the idea of a head of state who isn't a career politician that campaigned or even bought their way into office.
This, after all, is how wars get started.
Edit: the dire circumstances being, of course, WW3 - the subject of the Queens' speech.
Having said that, I prefer having the Royals to an elected non-ceremonial Head of State. Having the Head of State separate from the head of the executive branch of government seems like a good idea to me.
If we were all loaners things would be much worse. You might not have war, but you would have lots of individual killing, and very little progress.
Your best option is not to fight it, but rather to use it: Get people in various countries to consider themself all part of one group. (One of the reasons I think the Olympics is a huge impediment to world peace. I almost never think of MY country as better than YOUR country - except during the Olympics.)
Bit of a selection bias there. Those of us who don't care just tend not to talk about it.
To be a bit more on-topic, that this speech was even considered necessary gives me a bit of hope. We see it as a bit antiquated, fears of a time that is now largely behind us, when our rulers were willing to sacrifice most of us in their global power game.
No, not really, see
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/how-i-learnt-to-s...
You can watch it for free on youtube.[3]
[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threads