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I don't understand why people keep buying this company's god damn products. I mean, holy shit.
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I don't understand why people keep buying this company's god damn products. I mean, holy shit.
But as far as why people keep buying the products: sadly it's because they're better. I'm looking at the GS4 (i9505, not the Exynos one) right now vs. the HTC One and Xperia Z. On paper, they're all basically the same phone (2G quad core snapdragons with 1920x1080 screens). But all the tiebreakers (really, all of them) go to the Samsung phone. The GS4 is slightly smaller, thinner, and lighter yet its screen is slightly larger. It's CPU is clocked higher and its battery is larger. It's cameras are better (much more so than the HTC, slightly more so than the Sony). It has a removable battery where the others don't. It has a sdcard slot where the HTC doesn't. It supports the "T-Mobile" HSPA+-on-AWS-band frequencies. It has a thermometer, hygrometer and barometer built-in.
It's just a better phone on everything quantifiable. Not so much so as to kill the competition, but to anyone paying attention and recommending hardware to their friends, they're doing an awful lot right.
so still why? advertizing .... average user would look to the numbers and buy it (as somehow people have started to realize are the same...)
Could you elaborate on that? Is it just the visual part that you don't like? I'm planning to get one soon, just seen one in a shop. The screen is beautiful and specs seem to be quite promising too. Can't wait to get my hands on it and code up some experiments.
Every other thing about this phone is also terrible. The way the phone sits on your hand, the material, the interface etc.
Ultimately, the closed ecosystem of the iPhone with a lot of random up charges for things like a second charger $30+, lockin through iTunes, lack of compatibility with PC and a much smaller screen steered me a way from the iPhone.
When it came down to the HTC One vs S4, the choice was pretty clear. I grabbed a waterproof S4 which is about the same size as the HTC one and the S4 has a replaceable battery.
To be honest, each phone has major pluses and minuses, and there is no perfect phone anymore. There are days I wish I had the iPhone, but, overall the S4 is a dramatic improvement over the S2 which is a dramatic improvement over the BlackBerry Torch, which is a dramatic improvement over the Windows Treo which is a dramatic improvement over the pocket PC (Don't even get me started about the pocket PC).
I think we can all be glad phone technology has gotten this good. Its really amazing. Any top of the line phone bought today is dramatically better than any phone bought even 3 years ago.
[added] For the comment below, I have been swimming with mine twice, I also like to take it out while I'm drinking and drop it in my beer to watch people's reactions. Doing so does make the bottom buttons stick for a few days, but the phone works.
Sealing it is difficult. You need to take about 2 min to make sure the back is on properly and it takes a bit more force than you are use to.
But, yes, mine is waterproof. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some defective models. Its not like people are writing reddit posts about all the cool stuff they do with their S4 actives.
Huh? There is nothing about the iPhone that is incompatible with PCs. iTunes runs a little slow on Windows but that's pretty much it.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/4
Every phone has its features. It's just at a point where a simple chart-by-chart comparison won't work for most people anymore. Practically every reviewer likes the One despite the fact that on paper it's a downgrade to the S4 in every way. Basically, it is like you said, the devil is in the details, but bigger is not necessarily better.
Personally, out of those three phones, I'd rather go with the HTC One only because I like the aluminum body chassis (along with how the screen looks) and the fact that their stock Android version is 50 dollars cheaper than Samsung's. The decently sized front speakers are also a plus. I very much dislike the look of the GS4 and TouchWiz which, in comparison with HTC's Sense, has less cooler whistles and doodads IMO. But ultimately I like stock Android the best.
The beats audio chip on the One is a con for me though (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdbn_pmxFic).
I haven't given the Xperia Z much of a chance, but aside from the fact that it looks aesthetically pleasing to me and I can use it while showering, I don't see much of an advantage. The GS4 came out with a water and dust resistant version, but it's slightly bigger and the audio jack is off so it won't fit most S4 cases. The Z's overlay is much more stock Android (GS4 version is TouchWiz only). So I'll pick it over Samsung because of that.
Basically, I really don't like TouchWiz. For the most part it just feels cluttered and half baked and a pain to use.
I'm not saying you couldn't possibly decide to buy an non-Samsung phone. I'm responding to a poster who claimed incredulity that someone could.
> I don't understand why people keep buying this company's god damn products. I mean, holy shit.
And you responeded that the SG4 had some better metrics than it's competition, but did no consider what made a better phone. Benchmark apps are one of those metrics that people consider, and has now shown to be misleading.
Even the higher CPU freq doesn't mean app performance is better, or even that general user experience is better.
Stop it with the metrics!
And why would anyone choose a phone they could get coverage on from multiple carriers in the US? That's just "marketing" gibberish, right?
Anyone who's used a S3/S4 knows most of the S-"features" are pure gimmicks that a fairly competent engineer could implement in less than a week. HTC phones are much more sturdy and better designed, IMO.
I was vacationing in Hong Kong earlier this month, and the subway stations were just completely plastered with various 15-foot tall Galaxy posters. Some of the features they were promoting were just laughable - simultaneous photos with the front and back camera composed into a picture-in-picture result? Really?
I really wanted this feature for a long time and wondered why phones that had 2 cameras did not allow it.
It was specially useful when taking photos of my 1 year old daughter. It helps capture our emotions at the same time we were capturing her. So now you can see photos where she is trying to learn walking and at the same time see my face that is at times smiling (when she walks couple of steps) and at times scared (when she is about to fall) in the photos.
Samsung galaxy s phones have generally good hardware compared to the competition as well as a few really important hardware features which their competitors don't have (all of the features at once, that is): 4g lte support, a removable battery, and (for me the deal(maker||breaker)) an SD card slot. Those aren't just gimmicks. They're real differences. Many people like me really care.
I couldn't care less about the default software - there are a wide range of roms which address most (unfortunately not all for super picky people like myself) issues you might have.
Hyperbole much?
Because they make very decent phones that can easily be made to run alternative Android operating systems that allow me to do whatever I like with my phone.
For example, you can't plug a USB Software Defined Radio (SDR) module into an iPhone to monitor and decode spectrum.
Is a little extreme. This is what companies do in the computer biz. Nvidia, ATI have been doing this BS for decades now. As cscheid said it's quack.exe all over again.
If they just gave the user the option to enable this performance tweak for games, I wouldn't mind. The problem is it's only enabled for benchmarks.
Others also do cannot justify anything.
As an Android developer I really appreciate what Samsung did in raising the bar for Android devices, and really bringing them to the mass market. High quality Android devices have been around for awhile, but it was far more common to see most people walking around with the low-mid tier Android phones. Samsung made it "cool" to own an S3, and now you can release and know that many of your users will actually own a solid Android device.
In an era where patent trolling is rampant, an exaggerated benchmark of this nature is sadly, child's play. And it certainly would not have stopped me from buying the product if I was in market.
Do you really think they can change suddenly? I don't think so. Copying and faking is internal system and philosophy of Samsung, can it won't be changed.