Bootstrapped, Profitable and Proud
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http://peter.a16z.com/2012/07/09/software-eats-software-deve...
Incidentally, there's not necessarily anything to be "proud" of if you don't take VC. It depends on the details of the business. 37signals has done fine without taking VC (though they did take a personal investment from Jeff Bezos), but Google, Amazon, Facebook, and the like would never have been successful without substantial outside investment.
Amazon has been profitable for many years now. YCharts showing profitability by quarter: http://j.mp/13zx97Z for the last 5 years.
Also, note that Amazon's initial business plan was such that it would not turn profitable for quite a few years, instead focusing on sales-growth. IIRC, they turned profitable around 2002.
Their most profitable year, 2010, they only made $1.15-billion of profit off of $34-billion in revenue.
In 2011 they made only $631-million off $48-billion.
In 2012 they had a worldwide loss of $39-million.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/10/26/amazon_profit...
http://guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/16/amazon-tax-a...
Yeah. At the end of the day, it's all about the quarterly profit. If a company isn't chasing the short-term dollar, the shareholders must be suckers.
Jeff Bezos invested in them and they are claiming they are bootstrapped? And have not taken VC money?
How can either of those be true. (And Bezos was not a VC fund is just playing semantics)
The difference is:
* Taking VC money from day 1 and have a founder with a 10% stake
* Taking VC money when the company is already successful and highly valuated, so it can raises millions while the founder retains 70% of the capital
That's day and night. In the first case the VCs decide, and they can fire the founder if they don't like it.
In the second case, the founder controls the company and can tell the VC "thank you for your advice but I'm doing it my way" during board meetings.
I'm not disagreeing with their choices (if Bezos offers to in est you say yes) but it does rather dim their core story.
That's fine - this is all part and parcel of HN - the real "how we got there" is always more educational for those following than the story told afterwards
Essentially, their argument was that if Jeff Bezos invested, they could have access to his advice and connections which was worth way more than any money he put in.
HN doesn't seem to make the distinction, for self-funding of less than $100K.
The thing I find particularly fatuous: "We were bootstrapped until we took VC money", as if everyone who takes VC money isn't in the same camp. I guess the company I founded was bootstrapped until our A round valued at $40M. Hey I created a $40M company by bootstrapping!
I used to work for a company which was growing like crazy and were signing customers left and right. The company hadn't taken any external investment. I was amazed at their "perceived" organic growth rate and very proud of working there. Then, the bubble popped. One day, I found out that one of the founders who actually plugging in the difference every month from his own pocket. Frankly, I was little disappointed.
I think its important to take into account the financial positions of the founders or their investments in their own companies.
But is your version of events correct? I've never seen the story myself on a 37Signals post.
Github was invested $100M as many would have known. Asmallorange has been sold to Endurance Group.
A successful bootstraped company generally starts smaller and grows slower than a successful vc-funded company but the founders get to keep all of the ownership. With the advent of cloud computing its getting cheaper and cheaper to bootstrap and it's making bootstrapping much more of a viable and attractive option.
Bootstapping lets you run your own company along your own lines, you firmly remain in charge.
It's often summed up as to what drives your creation of the startup: being "Rich or King".