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I think a more notable example included in that is A Clockwork Orange, which clearly depicts (simulated) rape. Is this classic now going to be illegal to distribute online in the UK?

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Others, off the top of my head:

  - Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
  - Secretary
  - Compliance
  - Kill Bill
  - Pulp Fiction (or does it not count when men are raped?)

Who was raped in the movie Secretary? They got happily married.

In the original short story, it is, well, quite another story.

Not rape, but sexual assault. It becomes consensual, but it doesn't really start that way.

This will surely be unpopular here but...

So enthusiastic consent doesn't work for you?

I'd agree the initial contact could be considered sexual assault, if it resulted in her feeling that way. Instead she enjoyed it and wanted it to continue, and continue they did. He wanted to stop because he felt like he was crossing a line and she wanted to keep going. That's about as enthusiastic as it can get without being explicit.

I'm talking about those who want this law, and ultimately would see the film in the wrong light. I have no problem with it at all.

Fair enough!

Also, the 2013 Tomb Raider game which has a rape scene.

You forgot Pepé Le Pew [1]. This law is obviously intended to ban such filth. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pep%C3%A9_Le_Pew

I guess Pulp Fiction will be banned too.

No, of course it won't, you know that it won't, and your attempt to try to misrepresent the proposed bill by suggesting that it will is petty and dangerous.

The question is how anyone can draw up a law that leaves art on one side and porn on the other.

It's Lady Chatterley's Lover all over again, and to suggest there's no need to be concerned is, I think, you misrepresenting the position. Until this is defined, there's a lot to be concerned about.

OK, I didn't mean to say there's no need to be concerned. But my point is, by wildly exaggerating the purpose and effects of this law, you're actually derailing what should be a sensible discussion. Personally, I find myself sympathising with the law, in part because of the extreme hysteria in response to it. I also find myself sympathising with it because I want child abuse to be eradicated, but that would be getting back to the actual issue at hand.

Arguably the best TV Show of all time, The Sopranos, would also have at least an episode blocked.

and Irreversible

Simulated? He drugs then rapes two underage girls.

Simulated in the sense that it's a fictional work, not a documentary.

Actually, you're thinking of the wrong part of the film.

The film?

I was referring to the film version of A Clockwork Orange, which does have a rape scene, but not of the two teenagers from the record shop. The book is another matter though (not that I can remember it clearly, haven't read it for at least 2 decades..).

EDIT: Actually, this is cleared up above, which is fortunate since I appeared to be asleep at the wheel when I wrote my original response ;)

In defence of this comment, apparently the book describes the drugging and raping of two ten year olds from the record shop, which is changed in the film to be a consensual encounter with girls his own age.

There are other rape scenes in the movie though. Fun fact: one of the actresses involved quit because of the difficulty of filming them.

One other movie with a rape scene: American History X.

Thanks - I'm getting majorly down voted by illiterates.

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