For Brits: click Republican? on the Guardian front page to hide royal news
guardian.co.uk
guardian.co.uk
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republicanism_in_the_United_Ki...
As for a U.S. "Republican" button, Google basically already has that of sorts in their news; it attempts to determines that you don't respond well to certain news and won't show those items. I don't read Google news much anymore though, because I feel like they intentionally or otherwise are influencing my world-view.
That's comparing Apples and Cactuses and doesn't strike me as equivalent at all.
The Queen still has extensive powers, that she does not use.
For example, all laws must be signed by the Queen, but the last time someone refused to sign a law was around the 1700s, but if she wants, she can still refuse to sign a law.
Also, the Queen can refuse a parliament election (resulting into having no parliament)
Also, she can sell whatever she wants that belongs to the state in a unilateral manner (but I do not know the last time a monarch used this power O.o)
Also she can kick out the prime minister (this power seemly was threatened to be used on Tony Blair when he got excessively trigger happy regarding US wars... seemly threats to use it, made him tone down a bit his hunger for blood).
It was also a mild dig against the Democratic party, implying that their support of slavery stood against republican ideals.
I don't know much about early US history, I think I'll dig in, because having democrats being pro slavery and republicans anti slavery is something I wouldn't have expected.
Today's (US) Republican party is nothing like the Republicans from 100+ years ago. It's kind of sad.
full res: http://xkcd.com/1127/large/
That's because, in France, left wing has always been associated to humanism (humans first, economics then) and universal rights (the whole world deserve to have rights), while right wing is most about economics and nationalism.
From what I understand, US left wing is historically about equality for the "real USians" (kind of nationalism of the poors) while right wing, until getting own by far right in XXth's end, was for a very liberal society, be it in term of economics or in term of social rights.
This would explain a lot in the recent NSA reactions, where we were very shocked that the debate seemed to focus on whether or not US citizen were spied, rather than if mass surveillance was a problem at all.
Am I correct, here ?
I'm not sure that's quite right, but I see your point. 'Republic' in modern parlance indicates a democracy with an elected head of state. There are many democracies with monarchs, but constitutionally they have little or no power.
There is little "serious" republican activity within the UK, the general idea is that it is a massive vote loser, with minimal gains as politicians already get elected etc.
There are regular and increasing stories noting Charles' unsuitability for the post (using his position to lobby for his personal preferences in architecture, alternative medicine etc). This is mostly anti-charles than anti-monarch.
Until the Queen marches into Parliament to arrest and behead Cameron, we are unlikely to have any serious debates on Republicanism, and if she actually did that most of us would be on the streets asking her not to just stop at the PM ...
A throw away comment on a throw away thread about a hopefully happy woman having a baby.
As long as no medical problems, who cares. More important things anywhere and everywhere else.
On balance, the monarchy does actually provide the UK with an unquanitifiable mystique that you don't really appreciate until you've lived abroad for a while (I've been away since 1998 and I'm just beginning to appreciate the seductive power available to top UK businesses through Royal connections).
I think that if you are a visiting dignitary / trade envoy to the UK and your host swings you an invite from "The Queen of England" to Buckingham Palace for dinner, you've been beaten.
So, despite the seeming overt display of opulence at tax payers expense, they probably do pay their way.
Aboriginal treaties will also have to be renegotiated as the Crown wouldn't exist and thats never going to happen
Countering that was my reaction upon seeing this: "they really ought to be able to predict who would click that link and default the page to the correct setting". Creating echo chambers minimises friction by relieving consumers of having to continuously re-evaluate their positions given the other sides' points.
That would deny republicans the satisfaction of clicking on the button as they shout "FUCK YOUUUU QUEEN!" inside their heads.
Like almost everything to do with the british state, this is 90% ceremony, which ultimately serves to prevent us cutting down the royals in the street like dogs in the manner of the continentals.
It's 2013. Why would you be that?
You like paying money for some blood-line family to sit and have the good life?
Em, you can have an elected President (like France IIRC). No reason to have some arbitrary blood-line human.
>and that they cannot be as corrupted as an elected or appointed person
If history is anything to go by, they can be even more corrupt and corrupted.
Nero was a monarch.
Recently I've come to think that elected is not better than something completely arbitrary (blood), and may even be worse.
At least which an arbitrary decision you might get a nice person, with elections you never seem to
Not need to feed and clothe and have huge palaces for a whole range of parasites.
The British system of government is far less costly than that of the US.
The Disraeli quote is to the point: the "representational" part of representational government is thorny, and pretty much ensures that a ruling clique is put in place whose interests do not mirror that of the electorate very well.
The constitution of representational democracies always put in place a watchdog over the powers of parliament: in the US, it is the legal system. In Turkey, it is the army. In the UK, it is the monarchy. Many people seem to think that law courts are an obviously superior guarantor of democracy than monarchies, few are able to argue the point well.
No. A council is the way to go.
Besides, the councilors set the policy that council are supposed to follow. If the council is rubbish, its the fault of the councilors. That is supposed to be the point of electing them, or booting them.
It's not that they're crap, but they're powerless due to the contracted out power they have had to accept due to the budgetary constraints that the government have forced on them. They can deal with individual issues fine but there are problems bringing in full scale accountability when you have to shift 99% of work onto other people.
You've probably experienced the subcontrators, not the councilors who due to the low budget are crap.
Next time you get an issue, call your local councilor - you might be surprised!
It's also quite nice having someone connected with government that has been around longer than one or two political terms and thus has a wealth of experience to draw from and can an act in a way that's above short term popularism. If you ask even the most die hard anti-monarchists in the UK, I believe most of them would agree that the Queen has done a very good job. They're more concerned with her offspring and what happens when she dies.
Edit: forgot to mention too that the Queen, Charles, Harry, William, Kate and other immediate family members spend an enormous amount of their time directly involved in charity work.
http://www.arc-trust.org/about/
http://www.rspcareptilerescue.co.uk/
http://www.herpconstrust.org.uk/
(sorry thinly veiled joke about the Royals and Alex Jones)
(no I don't believe any of it but it's funny)
This is exactly one of the reasons I approve of them. Again, no bias, no selfish PR reason, they can just help out.
I knew it was some sort of joke, didn't realize it was about Icke. Oh, lizards!!!! Of course. I really should have seen that!!! Oh well.
Even so, I wanted to , er, "approve" of royals supporting other wise neglected charities.
What we get from monarchy is an ever expanding line of spongers and hangers on who we're expected to support.
Someone will no doubt be along in a minute to say we don't support them financially as they are the crown and generate wealth that way but I'd argue that was all stolen from the common man anyway (plus there's lots of hidden costs such as policing and security that don't come out of the royal budget)
The French had it right with Louis XVI.
We need a non-political president like the Irish, German and Israeli's have.
There was only ever one Shakespeare. There have been hundreds of royal families- the British one is notable because it still exists today. Take that away and they're just one of many, and tourists would be far, far less interested.
Then what do we promote? The Lake District?
I've been living in the US for the last five years and have come to appreciate the Royal Family more than when I was in the UK- their apolitical nature means that they are more internationally appreciated than most other world figures.
That's why it's just "sit".
Same for the charity work -- that's just what idle rich people do to pass their time, drink champagne and see each other over expensive food.
I don't see why. Making those trips is likely not very relaxing- just because it doesn't involve hard manual labour doesn't mean that constantly moving from city to city and politely gladhanding hundreds of people in a day isn't work.
But you're right, nothing good comes out of charity work, it's all just a bunch of rich people eating caviar. Glad your exhaustive investigation into the topic was successful.
Oh, I did investigated it exhaustively, and yes, nothing comes out of charity work.
It's just a way for people to feel good and situations to perpetuate.
The only work that matters and improves things is doing structural improvents and proving infrastructure.
Charity just make people dependent.
Not to mention that, in say Africa, it is estimated (by charity workers themselves) that the vast majority of charity money go to official's pockets.
Honestly, I don't believe you investigated anything beyond reading some bias newspaper. I also think you confuse small local charities and massive charitable attempts to solve world wide poverty. Two very different things. But if you investigated, you would know that, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyYgnhhKFw&list=SPqs5ohhass...
Next, if the monarch asked something of the country as a whole, most people would take their word for it, because there would be no political motive or bias. If a PM did so, it becomes partisan and a debate. We had Blair take us to war twice on his say so. As such, most of the country opposed it and saw it was willy waving or macho-ness, or sucking up to the Americans, and so on. Had the Queen believed in it and come out and said something like, "Look, Im sorry, but with 60 odd years of experience, we have no choice", I think the country would have backed her, if only reluctantly. But the Brits would have thought, "bloody hell, she speaks, and well, OK". And that would be because of the huge constitutional risk doing so would have caused.
Finally, we could in the UK vote in something like a Nazi party. We could then take to the streets and have a violent revolution and kill the nazi's. After all that, the Monarch would still be there as a shield of stability for both us internally, an as an external sort of front. Having won our revolution, Queenie would still be there, and ask the winner, "Ok, now what?"
I prefer all this to every other presidential system, most notable the insane US presidential race. I don't want out head of state to be in that cesspit. I like that it just sits there, all nice and stable.
I care not for all the pomp and ceremony. I hate all the silly gossip. I dont think they need so many homes and hangers on. All that can be up for grabs, no problem. But at it core, I personally, prefer our monarch to any other alternative.
Sorry, but I do not believe that a vote is a universally good thing. Mostly, yes. But not an absolute. Here in the UK I firmly relive we have the two almost perfectly balanced. Democracy can do anything it likes, under a safe shield of our monarchy. If it ever got real nasty and extreme, the monarch can shut it down. We would have a crisis in that case, but we would not go Nazi, or something. I believe that externally other countries and cultures can see we are a thriving powerful democracy, but we also have depth and stability supplied by our monarch head of state.
UK! UK! UK! :)
Actually no. That is total rubbish since about 1915.
We don't directly finance the royal family although various members get paid very well for various public engagements.
Tax avoidance implies breaking the law. The tax arrangements with the royal family reflect the unique position as de facto holders of much UK "public" property. This is being sorted out with the separation of Crown Property and the various family member's private property and the definition of state / private events. As this is resolved, the royal family take on a greater tax burden. The Queen has been paying income tax for decades.
People seem to separate the Royal Family from other rich and powerful people in the country. They all got there the same way, playing the game of capitalism (in which inheritance / nepotism is inherent)) better than us. If the UK dropped its monarchy, these people wouldn't just disappear. They would still be massively rich. They would still, fortunately, act as a tourist magnet (although probably to a lesser degree). They would still be plastered all over the papers.
And we'd probably end up replacing them with some voted in leader to the 2nd house. Cue more politicians and even worse media frenzy. Woot!
I think the parent was referring specifically to Prince Charles and the Duchy of Cornwall's curious tax affairs. As you say, the rest of the rest pay tax.
At least in US usage it doesn't. Tax avoidance specifically is not breaking the law, whereas tax evasion specifically is breaking the law.
American TV personality Barbara Walters interviewed a Kate Middleton lookalike--a waitress who is not pregnant--about how the baby was doing.
localStorage.getItem('royalRepub')
Or perhaps leave gossip to the gossip rags?
I was saddened when they published the birth of that Harry in a column on the inside pages, it should not have been covered at all.
I do not know if the Indie still has this policy.
The BBC is one of the worst offenders - they have an entire page devoted to "live" coverage!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23413944
It's pretty ridiculous. The BBC's coverage of anything related to the Royal Family is always far too fawning and sycophantic.