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That's right, it's still Bush's fault.

We're in Obama's 2nd term, this is getting old.

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That's right, it's still Bush's fault. We're in Obama's 2nd term, this is getting old.

This article doesn't make any claims about anything being Bush's fault.

As far as I can tell, this article is reporting new information about Bush's actions during his presidency. It's being reported now because this information wasn't previously available. And it's only available now because Snowden leaked it.

While you're right in pointing out that the current blame can be primarily directed at Obama, it is also Bush's fault. Its a slippery slope of diminishing fundamental rights guaranteed by the constitution, and whoever follows Obama as president is likely to just follow it even further..

It's Bush's fault, and it's the fault of everyone who sat idly and ignored those of us yelling about it under Bush, and it's Obama's fault, and it's the fault of those supporting him now.

Yes, no need to worry about new information as it comes to light if it was in the past. We can't learn anything from history.

I would be happy to comment on a newspaper article about the legal opinions expressed in the Obama white house about the legality of the programs Obama has continued or created. Perhaps in another 10 years I will be able to do so.

It started under Bush, so this is one instance where I think they are right. However, I blame Obama more because he was supposed to do the opposite.

Are you sure it started under Bush? Accusations that Echelon was being used for industrial espionage date back to the 90s.

This is relevant because a creeping erosion needs to be fought differently than something that had a distinct event that caused it.

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