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Sigh.

No, that car hit that tree. It wasn't dropped off by a flatbed truck or something. And yes, cars can catch fire during high-speed collisions.

Not to toot my own horn, but... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5936521

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who said that NSA is limiting themselves only to reading your emails.

"Bush advisor: Hastings crash ‘consistent with a car cyberattack’"

http://rt.com/usa/michael-hastings-cyber-car-218/

I am not denying the possibility that there was fowl play. I am denying that "the wreck looks like something from a movie" is evidence of anything at all. Keen difference there.

I am not denying the possibility that there was fowl play.

So you think chicken sabotage is a possibility then?

Ha! In fact, I find it rather likely that birds were involved.

I remember, years ago when I was working for BMW, reports that security researchers had been able to gain control over a vehicle by compromising the wifi that the Tire Pressure Sensors used to communicate with the central onboard computer. If a few security researchers could develop that capability, I'd be stunned if intelligence organizations weren't doing the same.

Please don't use Wifi. Wifi doesn't refer to all radio communications, Wifi specifically refers to IEEE standard 802.11.

The TPMS systems do not use Wifi, nor do they generally transmit in the 2.4 GHz band. The system from the paper you mention sits at 315 MHz.

The paper is available here: http://www.winlab.rutgers.edu/~Gruteser/papers/xu_tpms10.pdf

It's not an important distinction, but I still appreciate the clarification.

You do realize that RT is a directly funded by the Russian Government don't you? There is a great incentive for them to paint the US in a bad light.

Here you go: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/michael-hastings-ca...

I'm not trying to say that its impossible, not by any means, but the RT article presents the statement as something that is assumed to be true, whereas the HuffPo article presents it among a large list of conspiracy theories. The RT article is clearly written to act a propaganda, and the article from the post gives a more objective view, where there is a slim possibility that the car was hacked, but it is just as unlikely as any other.

That doesn't make it all false. The best propaganda is also true.

But it also doesn't make it true

That property exists for all news media.

sorry, man, just grabbed a link about Clarke.

Describing Richard Clarke as a "Bush advisor" is a case of technically true, but sort of an unusual label for the man and somewhat misleading in the impression it might give of who he is.

His counter-terror position was a holdover from the Clinton administration, and he eventually left the Bush administration on very bitter terms; I've seen the term "character assassination" used to describe the way he was treated by the administration on numerous ocassions.

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