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Of course, you could say that it's a bit ironic for a CA community to be on Google, especially after yesterday's (shocking) revelations. But sharing this to remind people that there are communities who really focus specifically on crypto / data-privacy and related issues. Some of these HN discussions would maybe be better served if moved somewhere like that.. and some HN'ers might choose now as a good time to dive into the crypto-anarchist world, or at least dip their toes in the water.

I knew there was I reason I always liked your posts.

If you're ever in Austin drop me a line and we can have a chat. The CA community is pretty strong down here and growing thanks to people like Cody Wilson and Defense Distributed.

Why choose google plus as a way to sustain this kind of community ?

Like putting a "Protect the Environment" bumper sticker on a Hummer.

Duh? Ease of access.

Really, Google plus? That is not crypto-anarchism. Try Usenet.

There are a lot of places one can tap into that community (or branches of it). I don't pretend to say this G+ community is the place to go for CA, but I wanted to share something to serve as an intro for any HN'ers who maybe weren't already familiar with crypto-anarchism. In hindsight, maybe the wikipedia page[1] would have been a better choice.

[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-anarchism

Until I read your comment, I thought the post was a joke.

As a CA I don't use either. Deep web.

I'd love to talk to you sometime... shoot me an email? (No, I don't work for the NSA!)

Nice try, Eric ;)

First thing that came to my mind was http://cryptome.org

I stopped using G+ when it became clear they didn't allow anonymity on it.

https://twitter.com/makerop/status/343008058991075330

Don't forget Carnivore:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_(software)

FINALLY!

Yes, this is where things need to go, forget the whole political charade and just jump straight to the end game; don't ask for your privacy from an authoritarian state, take it back with cryptography.

etherael! I see that you are using encryption today! Would you like me to:

a) Notify the authorities that you're using banned software.

b) Make sure that you stand out from the crowd due to your lack of social media profiles.

c) Get the rubber hose to force your password out of you.

d) Book you a stay in Room 101.

e) Order you a double-dose of government feel-good pills.

f) Send you to the Gulags because use of encryption means that you are trying to hide from the government.

</Clippy>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6XpE9I0BLA

Obligatory XKCD: http://xkcd.com/538/

A) Prohibition does not work. Not for alcohol, not for plants, not for drugs, and sure as hell not for long binary sequences. The most aggressive possible pursuit of cryptography will achieve just one thing; now it's steganographic to boot, congratulations.

B) I travel the world constantly primarily to avoid having to answer to any government, standing out because of a lack of social media profiles is somewhat laughable by comparison.

C, D, E and F) the harder you push the better we hide. Prohibition will never work. Bring it on.

Also possibly of interest:

http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100021.txt

Hm. And what is so crypto about them?

Perhaps it's performance art. They'll have a great big community on a pervasive surveillance platform in order to be personally the first against the wall.

Please... do you think these people are that stupid? Any actual organized CA group is doing anything that might actually be illegal / sensitive / controversial using channels other than G+. A G+ community is just a public face to something bigger... just like there's a "HN community" on G+. Sounds stupid at first blush, right? But then you realize it's just a place for a group of people with some common interests to share links and discussion publicly in a forum get gets a lot of traffic and attention.

Think of it as just marketing / PR.

#ironic

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