The Sean Parker Wedding Is the Perfect Parable for Silicon Valley Excess
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[1] http://www.businessinsider.com/sean-parker-was-fined-25-mill...
I disagree. To me, this is the story of a single a-hole. I don't see a larger story. I live in Silicon Valley, and with some exceptions, nearly every person I've dealt with over the years, rich or poor, have been super cool.
Many journalists present outliers as representative of the normal situation, then put up link-bait titles to generate controversy and clicks. It is a dishonest practice.
"Nothing says, "I love the Earth!" quite like bringing bulldozers into an old-growth forest to create a fake ruined castle."
Fuck you Sean Parker. Couldn't you have just flown everybody out to a real castle somewhere for $20 million?
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/06/sean-p...
Not that you care what I think, or will read this but I'm sorry for pre-judging. Apparently you can't believe everything you read on the internet.
Sad to see that SV billionaires suffer from the same kitsch-mania as do the Russian oil oligarchs.
It seems wrong based on that world view that a baby-faced geek in a hoodie can look down on all the traditional businessmen from his mountain of money.
These new rich they did not get rich through "hard work", they just got the right idea at the right time.
They did not prove themselves in a decade(s) long process of "building a business", facing countless challenges along the way, but practically got rich over night - often while having a lot of juvenile fun.
And of course nobody can construct a charming "rags to riches" nonsense story here, the one Americans love so much. The current generation of silicon billionaires come from privilege, and can be billionaires shortly after completing their studies at some elite university .. or even before that.
None of that is surprising. That's how modern, globalized, digital capitalism works. But it makes people uncomfortable, and yes jealous. These 20-something billionaires are simply way more offensive to the common man than the traditional industrial tycoons.
Very, very few people will have the right idea at the right time. It is not something you can plan or work (hard) towards to. Also the software business is elitist by nature. In contrast, it is much easier for most to relate to the traditional American entrepreneur story, which for example begins with his first job making pizza, then his first small restaurant and ends with him being a billionaire chain restaurant tycoon decades later.
It is obvious that among the capitalists there are subgroups which are seen as less deserving and sympathetic by the general public. Traditionally bankers and - it seems - for quite a few people Sean Parker-types too.
Of course it is unjustified to hate people because they found a legal way to easily and quickly make a hell lot of money. But well.. humans being humans.
Zuckerberg had it at Harvard. There was prestige and an aura of exclusivity associated with Facebook in the early days, which was integral to its viral growth.
Don't get me wrong, I think Zuckerburg is a pretty competent player, but he clearly had a lot of things going for him and working in his favour.
I don't know what you mean by 'traditional businessmen', but Zuckerberg's flaunting of Wall Street conventions by wearing a hoodie was great. Seriously, fuck those guys. There's good people there, but talk about guys making insane amounts of money for work of dubious (and dubious ethical) value.
And yes, Zuckerberg's billions came rather quickly, but he did create a product that is used by a billion people, and his company employs thousands of engineers. He broke no laws, didn't destroy the economy and didn't need a trillion dollars of tax payer money to be bailed out.
I just wanted to point out what I think are the dynamics behind attack pieces like this.
I dare to claim that if some popular rich people, say Hollywood stars, had done exactly the same thing there would be no coverage outside of the gossip section where the writers would only fawn over the romantic scenery.
I think this is not about the actual event itself. It is about the things I mentioned earlier.
Nobody is surprised when people from Hollywood do shameful and disgusting things, because they are openly and honestly shameful and disgusting.
But Silicon Valley and the SF area like to paint and market themselves as somehow better than that. So it's a "surprise" when they go and do something shameful and disgusting.
They've made so much money, couldn't they have found a better way to spend it? If you want to create a magical experience, why does it have to involve destroying the environment?
*I don't personally know Parker of course so asshole may be a bit of an unfair judgement but stories like this aren't likely to make me think favorably of him.
There is, perhaps (though IMO not really) a larger issue with how Americans perceive the Silicon Valley elite (or, more accurately, the self-anointed "elite") and how it ties into perceptions of success and the American Dream.
But that's not what's happening here. This article is about how someone rich shit all over public property, illegally, and in a flamboyant manner. Invoking "they be jelly" is a giant cop-out. The narrative would be largely the same regardless of if they were European royalty, or a 50 year-old billionaire.
This sort of behavior is unacceptable no matter which way you slice it, so let's not make excuses just because they are "one of our own" (which, let's be honest, they're actually not).
Actually it didn't but I really don't feel like starting a long historic discussion here..
>This article is about how someone rich shit all over public property, illegally, and in a flamboyant manner.
See my other comment. If Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie had done the same nobody would give a damn. Bill Gates could probably easily get away with stuff like this too.
>This sort of behavior is unacceptable no matter which way you slice it
You misunderstood me. I wasn't trying to defend Parker. I have no sympathy for such decadence in general. My point was that his decadence wasn't his actual "crime" and neither was any violation of the environment.
This is where we disagree. The core of the story is someone wealthy doing something against the public good in a particularly flamboyant way.
The backlash would be the same regardless of who they are. It's the sheer flamboyance that's the core of the story. Larry Ellison had similar coverage when it came to being incredibly loud and obnoxious - and he's as close to a traditional industrialist as the software industry gets.
> "but I really don't feel like starting a long historic discussion here.."
Pardon me for saying so, but you've made some big claims and controversial statements, and your response to any refutation has been "well, I don't want to start a discussion here..." - so what do you want to do, besides drop a big, bombastic claim and walk out?
[edit] I'd also like to point out that whenever stories about the shenanigans of Silicon Valley appear, there is frequently the argument made that everyone else is just jealous, or that they are sore losers. This argument has a bad smell to it (in the code smell sense of the word).
I've also felt, recently at least, that this community has a nascent persecution complex, like everyone else is out to get us - usually because they're jealous, or they're luddites, or they're just evil in a laughably generic way. This particular trend I find highly annoying.
The difference is that Gates doesn't do stupid things like this because Gates knows that he is a public figure. He hires people who know what they're doing and invests his time and energy in PR. Parker, Zuckerberg, and others seem to think that they can enjoy the benefits of being public figures when they want to and then turn it off when they don't. It doesn't work that way.
Also, why doesn't Parker have anybody around him to tell him that building a fake ruined castle in Big Sur is not going to look good in the press? If I was him and I read this article, I'd be figuring out who had my best interests at heart and who was just hanging on for the money.
It's a travesty what Parker did in that park, but that's not what the article is about. The article is about how all the the Internet startup world are douchebags who don't know their place because they have gotten their hands on a lot of money but none of the cool reflective sense and taste that (presumably) The Atlantic and its intellectual readers possess.
> douchebags who don't know their place because they have gotten their hands on a lot of money but none of the cool reflective sense and taste that (presumably) The Atlantic and its intellectual readers possess.
Yes, thats how rich and poor intellectual Atlantic readers feel about rich dbags, be they dbags nouveau riche or paleo riche.
I would actually go so far as to say that the fine should have been much bigger. This is something that annoys me about tickets being a fixed amount: is it really a true deterrent to bad behavior when the fine is so negligibly small that you basically don't give a damn? The purpose of punishment is to reform bad behavior, bad behavior that is dangerous to others. When you're going 80+ kph above speed limit you're not just putting your own life at danger, you're putting other innocent people in the vicinity at danger too. A ticket should not be $400 at that point when you're a billionaire, it should be $4 million. $400 is likely not enough forceful enough as a corrective measure. In this instance I'd have been happier if the fine Parker incurred was above $25 million.
http://marcfbellemare.com/wordpress/2012/02/speeding-fines-t...
(The link is an interesting discussion of relative vs absolute risk aversion, with regard to tickets.)
History and celebrities have shown that when the courts think that, these people -still- don't think the rules will apply to them and will either lie about it, do self-serving "community" service, make excuses about how they can't because they are too high profile or busy, or out and out bribe people, either to do the work for them, or to fraudulently attest to their service.
The fact that he brazenly (and illegally) modified land designated for public use is pretty bad as well. Imagine if I decided to shoot a porno right in the lap of the Lincoln Memorial, setting up lights and cheap sets and basically making the whole monument look like a joke, ruining what would have been a solemn and sacred space for the general public.
Of course, I would also be shot by the guards there. There's no similar guardian for that particular part of the Redwood forest.
One might argue that by making changes to the natural landscape as Parker did, he affects the shared resource that is the environment, which some find to be less than totally acceptable.
They caught a lot of flack for that segment, but it stands that they do the exact same thing.
To the best of my knowledge, when it comes to their personal funds, they mostly buy cars. Which is fitting- whether or not they are jerks, they are definitely all car enthusiasts.
I think CCC is missing a 'Р'.
(edit): Here's a interesting profile of the guy leading this bureaucracy:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/09/us/09sfcoastal.html?pagewa...
(Which is probably change for Sean "do you know what's cooler than a million dollars" Parker)
Yes, it's probably excessive, but maybe not all the pictures are there
Of course, you could argue that we don't care if the rich can commit certain offences with impunity. Perhaps we've signalled that by legislating a fine rather than imprisonment for this offence.
Ah yes, because having requirements for a permit before modifying certain locations that are a shared public resource totally makes California the Soviet Union.
Anything a corporation, LLC, or company buys can be treated as an expense as a consumable. I'm not sure what revenue the LLC would have, so it would probably take a loss, which then can be written off on personal taxes as "income/loss from a business."
That's my guess.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Revenue_Code_section_... ("hobby loss rule")
From the asshole that parks his Hummer sideways in 2 handicap spots to stupid brats that trash resturants and laugh at the staff, it's really stupid behavior. The "old money" knows better than this and mostly stays off the radar of the rest of the public.
As for trashing a redwood forest, not sure what makes that seem OK. :)
>Nothing says, "I love the Earth!" quite like bringing bulldozers into an old-growth forest to create a fake ruined castle.
So he brought multiple bulldozers in hey? Somehow I doubt that, do people actually buy into this sort of stuff? At best from pictures it looks like they used small earth moving vehicles as you'd expect.
http://ncwtv.com/nn/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/0e64parkers-w...
Also, what do you mean by "this sort of stuff"? "This page left blank for your own rationalizations and fantasies", hmm?
"Unlike most bulldozers, most loaders are wheeled and not tracked, although track loaders are common. They are successful where sharp edged materials in construction debris would damage rubber wheels, or where the ground is soft and muddy. Wheels provide better mobility and speed and do not damage paved roads as much as tracks, but provide less traction."
That seems like an odd thing to quibble about.
Are you saying he didn't illegally destroy environmentally sensitive wildlife by moving a bunch of earth and installing a fake fucking castle, but that it's all okay because he used "small earth moving vehicles"?
There was a great Planet Money episode about how BP was required to replace pelicans (not pay a per-dead-bird fine) after their gulf coast spill and how market prices eventually emerged for that service. http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/07/30/128880374/the-frid...
I really hope no one makes this coke-snorter his role model.
Feels like he had already calculated the fines and the outrage.
On a sadist note I couldn't resist wondering how long they are going to hold onto each other. Hope that ends without drama at least, after all this waste and damage. Well, this follows pretty soon these days, isn't it? Especially if it's two celebrities.
There's certainly, let's call it "journalistic excess" in the story (OMG! Google busses!) but I think real damage was done. Weird that neither Parker or the owner had the sense to think that they should clean up afterwards. The specifically sought out the place because of its ecological beauty.
If you can't see that these regulations are there specifically to protect precious natural reserves from unanticipated damage, you are a moron.
The penalty for such barefaced contempt of the law should be death. As a billionaire with an army of lawyers, Sean Parker has no excuse for flaunting the general will of the public in this way. This isn't an innocent mistake made in a drunken moment of passion. This is calculated, premeditated contempt for the laws of our society. If Sean Parker has so little respect for our laws he should have his wealth stripped and be excommunicated from the state. He should feel lucky to escape this kind of crime with his life.
Obviously American society is degenerate and borderline non-existent when this kind of conspicuous contempt for society receives apologies by supposedly well-educated people.
Someone qualified to do so probably could, yes. Asking preposterous questions like this isn't lending your side of the argument any credibility.
I have friends who are geologic and hydrologic engineers. Their conclusion on reading the 132 page report published was that it was written by persons who similar qualifications, and not laymen.
You're the one arguing against reason, that somehow the California state governments ecology agency just employs random yahoos to conduct geologic assessments on natural parks and issue seven digit fines if they don't like what they see, all because we shouldn't be hating on one of the Facebook guys...
No one is simply claiming it—it is absolutely proven.
Not to seem like I am defending this terrible act. Digging a pond in an old redwood grove seems like it would cause quite a bit of damage.
If he was illegally bulldozing redwoods on land he paid cash money for, you might be able to make an argument about environmentalism. But he didn't own it. That's straight up property rights.