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I don't normally upvote non-tech things on HN, but that was one of the most fascinating articles I have read in awhile. I started to idly read it, but immediately become engrossed.

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You might like the book "Nothing to Envy: Ordinary Lives in North Korea." There's quite a few jaw dropping stories from people who defected from NK. It's such a mysterious country, I am completely fascinated by it.

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I just read that book last week. Amazing stories.

Thanks for the suggestion. I will definitely check it out. Although, I have trouble reading those types of books (and articles) because they tend to be a bittersweet experience. On the one hand I feel like it is sort of like a sin to be willfully ignorant of the terrible things happening in places like NK, but it is also incredibly depressing learning about these things and being so powerless. For some reason the brutality women face in these places seems to upset me the most. A few weeks ago I read a very descriptive article on witch hunting in Papua New Guinea and thinking about it still keeps me up at night.

Did you learn of the PNG situation from the article that was submitted to HN?

Did you know that since that article was shared here, the PNG govt is trying to push forward very tough laws to clamp down on the nastiness that goes on there. They're bringing back the death penalty, and it will now also apply to rape, violent robbery, etc.

> The prime minister also announced that the government would repeal the controversial 1971 Sorcery Act, which acknowledges the accusation of sorcery as a plausible defence in murder cases

> Prime Minister Peter O'Neill said violent crimes were becoming too frequent and that "draconian" measures were required.

> "There will be maximum penalties that have never been seen before in this country"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22366075

> Parliament last week resurrected the long-dormant death penalty and approved five methods of execution: hanging, firing squad, electrocution, lethal injection and asphyxiation.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22698668

Perhaps you live in a country where you can become aware of the injustices, and have some power to help stop them?

Pop quiz time: Papua New Guinea is one of the four countries without mandatory paid maternity leave. What are the other three?

I was trolled enough to check Wikipedia and the other tree are Liberia, Swaziland, and the United States. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave.

East Coast, West Coast and Texas.

What's the password for that account?

That book's good - but it's about people fleeing the northern part of the country, one of the industrial centers, neither at the border or near the capital in the south. It's quite a different situation there and probably far more representative of the country as a whole.

I'm reading this right now, and I'll second the vote. One of the more Orwellian/absurd fun-facts I've come across: The two biggest department stores in the DPRK are called Department Store No. 1 and Department Store No. 2. (I'm sure there's some clever joke about marketing/branding in there) Like the OP said - it's mysterious and completely fascinating.

It's been a great book thus far.

Is No. 2 bigger than No. 1?

No, but they try harder.

Another good book on North Korea is B.R. Myers' "The Cleanest Race." While it's not focused on history or defectors specifically, it does offer unique insight on the formation of the North Korean state and the rationale behind its actions.

It was written by Adam Johnson, an English Professor at Stanford who just won the 2013 Pulitzer Prize for a book, not coincidentally, inspired by North Korea.

I read this in a print version of GQ (call me old fashioned), and as it turns out, they come out with pretty fascinating topics regularly. I think the urban explorers article or coast guard rescue a few years back piqued my interest.

For those who were interested in reading the urban explorers article, like I was: http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201303/urban-expl...

Agreed, very good read.

check out the vice guide to north korea, also fascinating.

I normally flag non-tech things on HN. Even if I enjoy them. Just planting the seeds.

That's explicitly contrary to the HN guidelines, as is your comment. ...as is this comment of mine. I'll show myself out.

I thought the comment was in jest, or, at least, I certainly hope so.

I don't think jesting is allowed here.

Surely you jest!

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