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That's not a button.

Downvoted because you have no actual opinion on the article's content so you pick on a trivial side issue and raise its importance disproportionately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law_of_trivialit...

Perhaps this person's opinion is "I expected this article's content to be about a button you can press to have some effect on traffic patterns, and instead the article was about a neat tactile feedback device used for accessibility. This article doesn't match my expectations."

Perhaps the downvotes will encourage this person to be more eloquent when stating their opinions in the future. Then again, perhaps it will just cause them to rage.

Curiously it is (so far) my highest voted comment in nearly two months, so I guess others had the same reaction I did.

Can't argue with results! I wonder if a more verbose comment saying essentially the same thing would have been upvoted as much.

Now it's my highest rated comment for two-and-a-half years. I'm not sure how to feel about that.

My highest rated comment (~50 upvotes) was a pun with no intellectual value. It's one of those things that makes you realize upvotes are meaningless; I now generally restrict my upvoting to behaviors I want to encourage and comments that I want higher exposure for (push them upwards).

Quite. I expected the "button" to have an effect on something. Instead I got "the little known twizzler that twizzles when it's time to cross", which is much less interesting.

From where I stand, the comment two levels up is more relevant to the article than the comment one level up...

You're right. We should stop calling anything a button which is not used to fasten cloth via a buttonhole, even if the entire English-speaking world uses the term euphemistically to refer to round things.

It's more like a spinning toothpaste lid. I wouldn't call that a button, even if it is round. And I can think of a lot of other round things which make no sense being called a button.

Which English speaking world are you from? Because fasteners and 'things you push' yeah. Round things in general though? no. Knob maybe... maybe.

I'm from the US. The article was from the BBC. So that's two English-speaking countries.

In the US, of course, there are other buttons than push-buttons and clothing-buttons. Belly buttons for example. "Pin-back buttons" are usually just called buttons. Cornflowers are sometimes known as "Bachelor's button." You can of course use the term as an adjective -- button mushrooms, a button nose -- and you can refer to that indented mat that stops you from falling in the shower as a "button mat." If I described a "button mouse" to you, as opposed to a mouse button, you would probably come up with a visual image of a trackpoint mouse -- though you might also imagine a normal mouse covered with too many interaction buttons. The word "button" can also be used for things which are just generally small and globular and attached to other things -- you can find many search results for "button of rubber" and somewhat fewer for "button of glass" which fit this description.

My understanding of British English is that they would not call something a "knob" in polite company. Americans (and I am one) think nothing of it. So, there are a decent amount of words with slightly different meanings throughout the English speaking world.

Plenty of British English speakers would use the word "knob", for example I have no idea what I would call the knobs on the cooker other than knobs.

Or the knobs on amplifiers, or door knobs - well I suppose door handle works but door knobs are distinctly different from handles in my mind.

dial :)

Hmm yes perhaps, I tend to think of a dial as part of a measurement device. So a volt/ammeter has a dial, a clock has a dial etc.

I suppose I could see myself calling the temperature setting of a cooker the "Temperature dial", but not the mode selector knob thing. Mode/Temperature selector is quite a good one actually. Still doesn't come to hand like knob does though.

I take it you're being sarcastic.

Perhaps my English is letting me down, but besides clothing buttons (and also the US word for what British English calls a "badge") I've never heard "button" used for anything that you can't communicate with by pushing it.

I guess you could communicate with me by pushing my bellybutton, but I wouldn't be 100% sure what you were trying to say.

:) However, would you call your bellybutton a "button"? I think it's a compound noun where "button" can't stand on its own in a meaningful way.

That's the most mean comment I've seen in this thread. Bellybutton:Button::Button:{Butt/On}

What's the nubbin on the end of a fencing foil called?

Spherical mushrooms are buttons. So is the round thing on the poker table that shows who the current dealer is.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/button

Indeed. I changed the buttons on my car just last week. They were getting flat.

Sounds like a pain, especially if you have locking lug buttons.

Just look forward to ordering a big button afterwards, from Dominos.

Yes I think you and I have a different definition of a what a modern 'button' is than the BBC.

technically is is call a tactile rotating cone (or tactile for short).

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