Inactive bank accounts to be seized in Australia
news.com.au
news.com.au
The full story is that inactive money is currently held by the banks and transferred to ASIC after 7 years of inactivity. The owner of the account doesn't lose their money, as ASIC advertises the details of all inactive accounts in an effort to locate the owners and return the money to them [1].
The new law changes the period to 3 years. As you can imagine, the banks are spitting chips, since they get 4 years less use out of the money.
One can argue that the change is good for people who have genuinely lost their account, as the inactive account gets visability sooner and is more likely to be reunited with its owner. It will be a nuisance for people who do want to leave an account untouched for a long time, as they will have to interact with the account every three years.
[1] https://www.moneysmart.gov.au/tools-and-resources/find-uncla...
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The customers were given one warning and a short period of time to respond.
So why change from 7 years to 3? What is the justification?
Why would anyone be making apologies for this? Ther is nothing, nothing reasonable about this?
Reactivating the account and getting your money back isn't hard either - you just find the unique identifier online https://www.moneysmart.gov.au/tools-and-resources/find-uncla... and take it to the bank.
It's not that difficult to arrange. Here's my complete, step-by-step guide to getting cheap basic banking services:
1. Avoid the Big 4 Banks.I had an account confiscated -stolen -emptied - whatever you want to call it.
This was an e-trade linked account. They sent me a warning so I wet in and checked that it was active -login, checked the account, regular interest deposits, all good,there.
Wrong.
I had to make a personal withdrawal or deposit in order to 'activate' the account or it was deemed inactive. All because I haven't bought/sold anything for 3 years in that particular account ( though I have in other accounts in the same e-trade account)
Now I have to apply to a govnemrnt agency to get my money back, the wait time is 6 weeks plus.
It's absurd, shocking, disgusting.
In the news is a pensioner who had been saving up for medical bills. Goes into hospital for major surgery, comes out afterwards and finds all his saving gone $22k.
The inactive period is 3 years. In other words, since the LOST finale aired. It's not that long.
Most countries have a provision to seize unclaimed monies. But three years? What on earth is the justification? Because they can't balance a budget?
If the government came into your house and took any jewelry that you hadn't worn in three years, most people would revolt. But apparently. Only in the bank is use it or lose it. So much for savings being the necessary per-requisite for capital formation.
/rant
For what? The current treasurer and government disgust me.
'dance, taxpayer, dance! Jump through these arbitrary hoops or we'll take your cash!'
The responsible thing for your bank to do would be to notify you at the 35-month period. Not much good if you don't keep your contact details up to date, but if it's something like a investment or trust account then that might be the one address you'd like to try to keep accurate. THIS DOES NOT CONSTITUTE SOUND FINANCIAL ADVICE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO KEEP YOUR BANK STATEMENTS FORWARDING TO THAT EXPIRED P.O. BOX AT YOUR ALMA MATER
The only situation I can think of in which it's somewhat ok for the government to raid a citizen's bank account is if the customer has been uncontactable for a number of years and cannot be found after a diligent search. Bar this, it's just theft.
"ASIC's Unclaimed Monies Unit regularly sends letters to people and companies whose names match our records." There are also private companies (Dun and Bradstreet etc.) who scrape the records and try to contact owners for a finders fee.
*You must physically deposit or withdraw funds from the account.
What's the point of this legislation anyway?
To improve the on-paper budgetary situation for the Commonwealth.
That's it.
The money seized goes, per the Constitution [1], into Consolidated Revenue in the first instance and that makes the books look better.
For the same reason, they're now grabbing unclaimed superannuation accounts and requiring many businesses to pay tax monthly instead of quarterly.
Most of the money will eventually get paid back out. But in the meantime it pumps up the forward estimates.
If this were being done by the directors of a corporation, ASIC would be down at a courthouse right now pressing charges.
[1] http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s...
Better on the governments balance sheet rather than the banks. What are the savers doing with it anyway it seems.
If they did, it would destroy the value of the currency. Self-destruction with no benefit. If people lost trust in BTC there are competing crypto-currencies/state currencies. Destroying liquidity.
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[1] http://www.sec.gov/answers/escheat.htm [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escheat [3] https://customerservice.sovereignbank.com/app/answers/detail...
How would you explain the countries self flagellation? I see a lot of these headlines from abroad and am pretty certain no-one is lifting a finger to help themselves. Is the bureaucratic process simply too big and complicated to navigate (it's not, btw), do people feel they don't have any power or what? The government doesn't have any right to that money, and '3 years' is just as arbitrary as many other ridiculous laws and policies recently passed and quantified with '(un)reasonable' or '(un)necessary' or 'x' number that the Australian government uses exclusively to service its own revenue deficit. Australians must just like being punished, I have no other explanation.