Assuming it does pass, it's probably better than none at all, although in the worst case the person trying to use it is wasting time with it when they could be giving you CPR. Definitely a tough call.
Assuming it does pass, it's probably better than none at all, although in the worst case the person trying to use it is wasting time with it when they could be giving you CPR. Definitely a tough call.
CPR won't restart the heart. An AED _might_. If the person has been down for several minutes, then a few rounds of CPR is a good thing, but if it's less that 2-3 minutes, go right to the AED, don't bother with compressions.
Do you have a source on this? We're talking about a healthy but traumatized heart, right? And are we talking about totally stopped, arrhythmia, or either?
(I think you can use them in full manual mode with open chest and electrodes to treat a few more weird rhythms, along with cardiac massage (open-chest or regular CPR), but probably not happening on a paramedic call-out, more likely in a hospital setting. Normally you use CPR + drugs and then try the AED again. I'm not really sure of the details of the limits of dealing with asystole in a hospital setting, but I suspect in an OR they have some extra options vs. other places.)
I guess another option might be a rapid way to put someone on heart/lung bypass, either in the field or at least in the ER, rather than only in the OR. Or rapid chilling, or both. I suppose if we either had long-term useful artificial hearts, or a more efficient/effective organ transplant regime, this might be more of an issue.
Rapid cooling is becoming very widespread in post-ROSC situations (we're spec'ing a chiller box for saline in our next rigs for that very reason), but if they're still dead, cooling them isn't likely to do much for them.
By 'stopped' I mean 'stopped being effective'. If the heart has truly stopped (asystole), then by all means, pump on the chest.
If a heart has stopped completely (asystole or 'flatline'), then an AED is useless. You can try CPR and epinephrine, and in the best case scenario, you might get the heart into a condition where you can use the defibrillator.
A defibrillator is useful when the heart is beating in a chaotic fashion (or _way_ too fast). The electrical shock it delivers completely stops the heart, in the hopes that the heart's internal pacemaker can take over again.
CPR can't 'reset' the heart, all it can do it help slow down the dying process until you can get a defibrillator in use. Without the defibrillator, the heart will progress into a state where even the defibrillator won't be useful.
Here's the basic protocol: 1) If it's a child, do two minutes of CPR before using the AED (the most common cause of cardiac arrest in kids is respiratory arrest, so ventilating them is sometime all they need)
2) If it's an adult, and they've been down for more than a few minutes, do 2 minutes of CPR to 'prime' the heart to make it more 'shockable'
3) If it's an adult, and you just witnessed the arrest, use the AED straight away. Their heart is likely still oxygenated enough to restart easily. If they're not breathing, be sure to fix that...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_external_defibrillato...
CPR alone never restarts a heart (ok... not 'never', but it's uncommon enough (in adults) that it's not worth fighting over).