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Sony stock price spikes up 9% after Microsoft's Xbox One presentation

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What? Guys, no..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/apr/04/japan-quantit...

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/japan-has-finall...

etc. This is just part of the effect of dumping a trillion into the market.

EDIT: Not to say the xbox event is completely unrelated, but the real reason behind the gains is big money being pushed into the market. More than likely money earmarked for Sony was held off a day or two for news of MS releasing a flying console that could brush your teeth - but barring anything truly radical, the money was always going to go into Sony's stocks.

The reason I made was this post was that the spike occurred at the exact moment the Xbox One was announced at the conference. (1:05 PM EST).

However, looking at other Japanese stocks, I'm only finding one Japanese stock with similar behavior today to Sony's: Panasonic [1].

I'm not a fan of asserting that correlation equals causation, but the timing of the stock behavior is one hell of a coincidence. But I admit that I could be wrong.

[1] https://www.google.com/finance?q=OTCMKTS%3APCRFY

Sony Corp. (6758) rose as much as 9.2 percent in the U.S after Japan’s Nikkei newspaper reported the company is “leaning toward” spinning off its entertainment division.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-21/sony-jumps-on-repor...

That was super hard (typing 'Sony' into Google News). If you're looking at stock prices by yourself and trying to draw your own conclusions you'll probably end up looking like an idiot.

Sony playstation division only makes up about 10% of Sony's overall revenues (7.2 billion out of 68 billion) so it doesn't make much sense that an announcement from just one of their competitors would have such a large impact on Sony's total valuation.

Could a mod remove the editorializing from the title then, please? Considering how misleading it is?

Stock prices are influenced by so many factors. Sony stock is up over 100% year to date, and the entire market is hitting all time highs. There could be a short squeeze, it could be due to broader economic data, some technical indicator, or a hedge fund upping their stake in Sony:

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2013/05/14/hedge-fund-manager-da...

I really doubt it has much to do with a Microsoft presentation.

I think you're in denial. The prime competitor to XBox jumps 10% from its 52 week high during the period of time that the XBox is announced. It's difficult to call that a coincidence.

But it looks like it still is :/ Stocks are complex creatures. Jumping to conclusions often ends up leading investors into trouble.

If the only thing Sony made was the PlayStation line, then yeah, it would be difficult to call that a coincidence. But Sony has recording studios, movie studios, medical equipment, TV's, phones, a huge array of other consumer electronics, various video games (lots for the PC), PC's, and oh yeah, the PlayStation and the PSP/Vita.

And as noted elsewhere, the price started moving only 5 minutes into the presentation, way before anything of substance was announced.

Denial? That kind of insults are not welcome on HN.

Anyway, take a look at this. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-21/sony-jumps-on-repor...

Although this thread is pretty old, I just saw something that reiterated my earlier point, Sony's insurance arm accounts for over 60% of the company's profits: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/28/business/global/sonys-brea...

There's no way a stock movement of that size had anything to do with the Xbox.

For comparison: MSFT's stock price is relatively flat after the presentation.

https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3AMSFT

Comparison of MSFT and SNE:

https://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=1&chdd=1&chds=1...

MSFT has been up nearly 30% in the last couple of months. Since stock goes down after any big reveal (see iPhone5 and Google IO), that's actually a good thing.

Apple stock has been a fluke. They generate so much income that they have insanity type cash reserves. Any company would kill for their sales and would love to have that type of cash on hand.

I think at this point even Exxon-Mobil is envious.

How big a percentage is XBox of MSFT?

From various gamers I've seen on twitter/etc I'm not surprised, the Core gaming audience did not seem impressed (anecdotal, but still interesting).

Be interesting to see if MS manages any level of 'course correction' at E3 or if people who aren't hardcore sports/CoD/etc gamers simply aren't the target market now.

i think so, they'll be showing off their exclusives come e3. then they'll win back a lot of gamers.

Can someone explain to me what the relation between NYSE:SNE and TYO:6758 is? Obviously the latter is the "real" Sony, but not traded until Tokyo opens. Do you get the same shares when you buy at NYSE? Thanks.

NYSE:SNE is an ADR [1]; basically, a bank buys shares in a foreign country, and sells a receipt for those shares on a local exchange. It acts as a proxy for the foreign share, without having to deal with currency conversion/owning direct shares of a foreign company.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_depositary_receipt

No. The reason is "Sony Weighs Spinoff Of Entertainment Business". Headline came right before the spike.

- guy who works on Market-Moving News at Bloomberg

I'd imagine it has more to do with Jefferies giving the stock a buy rating than whatever MSFT announced at their conference. http://seekingalpha.com/currents/post/1037391

MS is saving a lot for E3 - this is some pretty early speculation and mostly known stuff. If we get pricing at dates at E3, that will be the big mover on this.

Google Finance needs a Google Now / card-like upgrade it looks like it was done a decade ago.

Maybe since PlayStation dedicates itself to new IPs and games that are not FPSs it's stock increased when people saw Xbox turning into a generic dell desktop / cable box.

Is it actually because of the presentation or just a coincidence?

It's the blu-ray player.

If this is related to the console reveal, one has to wonder what possible metrics analysts used to compare Sony's PS4 announcement to Xbox One's.

It means shareholders may earn a lots from Sony. It does not mean gamers can get more enjoyment from Playstation.

This is not rocket science. Many people have been waiting years now for the new generation consoles to come out. Sony and Microsoft will be having a good year as the rest of the consoles out there are a joke.

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