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Since the Xbox One has Blu-Ray, it'll be the best of both worlds! :)

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PS3 has had Netflix for a long time as well.

And without requiring paying $50/year as well.

You have to pay for Live if you are just using your ISP to hit netflix?

Yep. Awesome, eh?

I own a 360 but I don't use it anymore.

Is this true for Xbox One as well?

Not announced yet but I'd be surprised if they give up that cash cow.

The only thing they said is that Xbox Live will continue to be based around the subscription you have now. So, Xbox Live will still cost $50/year. What services require Xbox Live on the Xbox One is not announced yet but based on the 360 the answer is probably almost everything.

I would be stunned if it was. It seems entirely unjustifiable unless it is just an artifact of the 360 software being designed with only with online services that use Microsoft servers in mind. They clearly know that isn't the case anymore though, it would be pretty damn shitty of them to keep ripping people off like that.

Netflix on the 360 requiring Xbox Live is not an artifact. It's just a cash grab.

The 360 was the first console to offer Netflix and they had exclusivity for a while so they could do it. Once the exclusivity ended they didn't make it free because they felt no need to because lots of people continued to pay up.

Ugh, that is awful. I wonder if they think they will be able to keep that up with a new console. Probably so I guess.

Allegedly this was a reason that BBC's iPlayer took so long to arrive on the 360. The BBC's charter was somehow contrary to MSFT's insistence that iPlayer was available only to XBL Gold members, so the release of iPlayer on 360 was delayed by years.

http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/bbc-we-d-still...

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