Poll: is your startup profitable?
Also - http://microha.us
* Yes - and we're making more than we would working elsewhere.
* Yes - and it's at least "ramen profitable" and more or less self-sustaining.
* Yes, but not enough to live on just yet.
We're in the $1-5M range. About 9 months old. Bootstrapped.
Can't say much more than that unfortunately!
That makes me think, coders in India have an edge when it comes to quitting their outsourced job. Being ramen profitable (or idly profitable?) is actually quite easy compared to the first world counterparts.
Call it reverse geo-arbitrage?
At a demo day we had a meeting with a partner from a big fund and pitched him. He turned us down and told us why but was kind enough to have a follow-on meeting with us to talk further about our pitching strategy and general business strategy.
One of the key points I got out of speaking with him was this: VC's (institutional, not necessarily angels) generally want to see high-growth and not high-profit. If you've got revenue coming in and you're "profitable" on it, then you need to be growing more (spending it). To the point that most VC's believe you should grow so fast that you never reach profitability until you exit OR decide to "level out" the business.
How does it pan out long-term for a VC to advocate for this strategy and this strategy alone?
Edit: My gut instinct is that this is an example of a VC valuing short-term gain at the expense of literally everything else. They don't want your business to succeed, they want their business to succeed. They don't want the economy to boom, they want to outpace the economy any way they can. Maybe I just lack experience in this realm (I have nearly zero experience dealing with VCs), and/or this is overly cynical, but this just pisses me off.
I understand that for some businesses accepting VC funding means more success than you could have ultimately achieved on your own, or even success where you would have otherwise failed. But to be overly snarky and simplistic, if I wanted to put someone else's benefit ahead of my own I wouldn't have started a [for profit] business.
I say that because most businesses which follow this strategy won't just tank, they'll tank really hard [Edit: that's an assumption, of course, but is this incorrect?]. I wonder if anyone is tracking the impact of this?
Is there anything that says that VCs make less by advocating strategies which promote the success of their entire portfolio? Are there VCs out there that do this?
Most VC portfolios are structured such that the expectation (at least at the time of investment) is that this company will be able to make up for ALL the inevitable losses I am going to take in the other companies I invest in. Well, not really that cynical, but in reality usually one or two companies in a fund are where all the profits come from, so you can understand why investors push each company to swing for the fences.
Key takeaway for entrepreneurs is just to know when a VC is right for your business and when it's not. The key factor here is how quickly you need to scale. For example most entrepreneurs don't have the goal of a nine figure exit for their business in the next several years, but some do.
Not all VCs invest this way. Here's a good read by Greycroft Partner Ian Sigalow that walks through the economics of how they invest and why: http://www.sigalow.com/2012/01/a-new-take-on-series-a
Bootstrapped on $60 in Adwords by my business partner when he was selling a finance spreadsheet in college. :)
Useless poll
Revenue and margins yes, but far from break-even.
Is the aim to build a userbase before monetizing the site (or flipping it)?
I'd say my strategy now, if I have one, is to build in some natural virality so that I don't have to exert too much effort to attract new users. Presently if I market I'll get a good number of users for a week or so, then traffic drops back to nil. Once I get a regular user base I'll look at monetizing.
I ask because I seem to have 100's of ideas like this but feel like they fall into the 'feature' category, rather than a full business.
Anyway, good luck with it, the site and features look great!
Built it in our spare time early last year, went live around the end of Feb 2012. Been growing like a weed ever since, and this year it's just been too much work to keep making progress on AudioMack in addition to having a full-time job.
Never really plugged it on HN because it didn't seem like quite the right crowd and I feel awkward about shameless self-promotion. :)