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I can't for the life of me imagine why they did that, it's ruined the Nexus brand for me.
Edit: Thanks for the downvotes.
Tethering works fine for HSPA+ here in Canada using Rogers, but disables if you use LTE. Whether that is a carrier flag on the LTE signal that Rogers transmits and the Nexus honors, or some technical limitation of the device, is unknown, but just notable that it isn't that tethering is wholesale disabled.
Imagine the reaction if Apple or Microsoft sold a computer which "obeyed ISP flags" to limit bandwidth or made all networking options for linking to a second computer disappear from their menus depending on the whim of an ISP.
The implications are just as bad, or even worse, for Google and the Nexus brand if what you say is true.
Because your data plan exists under a contract with your carrier. Because most users would be angry if their carrier suddenly terminated their connection or layered on additional tethered data costs because of detected second-device traffic (both of which have happened).
The Nexus devices are targeted at everyperson. Not just hackers and rogues.
No-tethering flags exist because wireless resources are actually a finite resource, and because carriers desperately rely upon certain usage models which is basically that you overbuy and underuse, which tethering tends to significantly offset. Should they? Probably not. But if you want tethering, talk to your carrier.
It's a data SIM specifically for use as a modem SIM not as a phone, so while I understand they want to do that I don't see why Google has to go along with it. Despite all the comments in this thread unless it's mandated by law somewhere it's still on Google's head as I see it.
Since when has the whole Android experience included being able to ignore contractual limitations? That's a different experience than I've ever had.
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Therefore Google should prioritise me and not the profits of another company.
What's the company going to do, ban non-contract devices from their services? Another company will just scoop up all those users.
Google is disadvantaging me and trashing their own brand for the profits of another company. Nobody in this thread has produced any evidence Google is legally required to do this in any jurisdiction. And if they do have a compay-to-company contract with them it certainly wouldn't be a disadvantageous one, it would likely be a contract to do this so that the telco would have the Nexus 7 on their paid plans too. Again that's Google crippling my device for their own profits. Again it's a deception, and again it's on their head.
I don't know why people are coming into the thread here so strongly to defend huge corporations that are selling computers and Internet connections and arbitrarily cutting people off from legitimate features. All the bandwidth is metered anyway so it doesn't matter whether the first device or a second device via the first uses it anyway. Or they could readily implement shaping (as in Australia, full speed to Xgig, slower speed thereafter) and just state it openly.
There is no reason for any of this besides naked profit taking and deception.
I know my reaction when I see statements that seem too strongly worded to be rational is to play devil's advocate, to try to bring a little rationality to the conversation (or, alternatively, learn the reason why the strong working is warranted).
There is no reason for any of this besides naked profit taking and deception.
Saying there is no reason in this case assumes more knowledge of the situation than you could possibly have. Besides that, you begged the question in the previous paragraph.
Either way, the original assertion that the device is hamstrung by Google in all scenarios isn't true. It's only disabled when used on networks that specifically disallow tethering.
It sucks and I don't know what the purpose is, given that data caps are already in place on top of that. At least carriers could be more transparent about the need to upgrade one's plan, instead of just disabling the feature on the phones.
(oh and also the Nexus devices are probably the easiest to circumvent the blocking of tethering, just root and get an tethering app)
It's a shame because the Nexus 7 has been for the most part trouble-free.
It is incredible how the batteries issues are impacting mobile devices. This is an area where we need a breakthrough.
In another note I am impressed with the iPad Mini battery: streaming an Internet radio all the night doesn't consume the battery.
I wish they'd test their new OSs on old Nexus models at the very least, and why the hell can't I uninstall Google Currents..
I have been using a Galaxy Nexus since they came out, and a Nexus 7 for almost a year (both currently at 4.2.2 via normal OTA updates). Neither has had any of the problems described.
Lemons happen. Also, these are complex machines that run complex software; malware happens too, as does innocently-perpetrated excessive resource consumption by background processes created by third-party developers that either aren't careful enough or simply missed something complex.
There's a lot of reasons things like this can happen. By many accounts the Nexus 4 does actually have serious issues in a lot of ways... of course, there are also many people that have and love this phone, too.
Don't judge the entire line based on a few complaints.
I used to think the Nexus line was where I would get the best support--I've had two Galaxy Nexus phones (first Verizon, then T Mobile), and the whole experience with 4.2 lag issues have made me rethink this.
Since I don't already use any of Google's chat platforms, I'm going to avoid Babble. In fact, I'm kind of hoping it fails to gain traction. I'd hate to be 'forced' to use it in the future.
I suspect I'm no the only one thinking this.
The theoretical GOOG babble product should also, in addition to whats listed in the article, include GOOG voice, somehow. GOOG must have dozens of "products" that all boil down to "send / recv a message" and I would like them to merge into one.
They should just buy doggcatcher as the best in class podcast fetcher and rename it "dogg-oogle" or something, and mush that into the "babble" or "g+" as per above.
I still have never found a place to try goog wallet on my nexus 7 in person. I have fat stacks of cash so you'd think there would be some interest in getting some of it. Most of the "lifestyle" vendors don't apply to me as I don't drink coffee or hang out in convenience stores and airports.