And they totally ground these discussions. Instead of offering a bunch of options of cheap food, the various posters insist that you have to follow their whatever-plan first or else fuck everything else.
Cheap foods: Bananas. Eggs. Brown rice. Brown pasta. Red beans. Carrots. Sweet potatoes. Peanut butter. Whole-wheat bread.
There are some foods on there that aren't allowed under certain diets. That's okay.
The latest review of all major trials of low carb diets show improved weight AND improvement of all major risk factors for heart disease.
There is no accepted explanation to why as of yet.
But the bottom line is that the advice on healthy food that "actual nutritional scientists" readily hands out today have very little real scientific support in clinical trials.
I think nusi has an approach that most of us will find acceptable. First we do real scientific experiments and then we base our recommendations on what is healthy food based on the data and knowledge we gather.