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Comment by mike_tan | Hacker News Reader

"Let me summarise what I think you're saying: * You saw value in it. * A few others clearly saw value in it. * Still others saw it as having negative value. * The ones who thought it had negative value flagged it. * They should not have done so. * Something should be done. Are you going to suggest what should be done?"

This submission got the same treatment. It would seem, even trying to talk about change can't be done. A fair vote taken down.

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Meta-discussions are almost always flagged and downvoted very quickly. If you'd been around for longer and paid attention then you'd know that. In particular, meta-discussion without specific, definite suggestions as to how to improve things get given very short shrift.

And look, here is an item with 7 points and 22 (and now more) comments. Again, points/comments is very small, so it will disappear quickly.

And again, this discussion has very little actual value. let me try to summarise how it might appear:

* 14 hours ago you registered your username

* 7 hours ago you submitted an item that appears to have been flagged off the front page

* 2 hours ago you submit an item about how unfair that is, and how everyone should have instantly realised how valuable your submission was.

* Now you complain that your complaint is being flagged.

* When I explain about how things work, you just continually come back and say that it shouldn't be like that.

Well, that's how it might appear. Welcome to HN.

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In this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5685591 you said:

    ... it seems to only take one person
    to vehemently object.

No, it takes several people responding to what they see as a valid objection. One objection on its own, vehement or otherwise, doesn't have any real effect. It only matters if, on balance, people agree and take the trouble to flag it.

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