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  | I'm just a lowly peasant who has no say in
  | the political process

You could just start a group based around your ideas. Once you get enough people together the group becomes a political force.

  | Well if the FBI has to release photos to the public
  | for people they were already well aware of

You do realize that there was a shoot-out with police, in addition to multiple other felonies committed after they released those photos. The guy doesn't even need to be convicted of the bombing to spend serious time behind bars.

Additionally, they don't need to know who someone is to have evidence that they did something. They could have a video of him planting the bomb, for example. Just because they don't know who it is in the video doesn't mean that they don't have evidence once they connect the face with a name.

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"You could just start a group based around your ideas. Once you get enough people together the group becomes a political force."

Well after consulting with people behind some of tech behind OWS, I doubt something like this would be effective. After all, you paint a big red x on yourself for the FBI spooks to go after, while senators and bankers call you domestic terrorists while the police and private security beat you in the streets for not staying in the "Free Speech Zones". I think letting the country go down the path most of its citizens are willing to let if come to will suffice.

Yes, no doubt this person will be going to prison. But you suggest that they dont know who was in the video, and even the FBI has stated that they were well aware of who they were before the incident had even taken place. People have been saying matter-of-factly that they planted the bombs… gee wiz, I wonder where they got that idea since they haven't been convicted of anything yet.

In the meantime I'll keep pushing code and my matsci knowledge to Defense Distributed, since we all know real political power comes from the barrel of a gun (or a drone…).

<blockquote> Well after consulting with people behind some of tech behind OWS, I doubt something like this would be effective.</blockquote>

You could try doing it without calling for a war to kill everybody who disagrees with you, without turning to violence as your first resort, without trying to change the names of public parks that were named after civil rights activists, without raping the women who make the mistake of joining your movement alone and before becoming members of the protected in-crowd, without the antisemitism, without seizing or destroying public property, without trying to divide society against itself, without shitting on police cars, without demanding that other people pay for the costs of your expenses that you create, etc, etc.

TL/DR: Don't be a bunch of fascist yobs or else society might treat you like you're a bunch of fascist yobs.

Haha you make it sound as if I was deeply involved with them like a religious zealot of sorts.

I was just helping them out with technical things and stating what I saw + heard from their experiences.

As I mentioned already I think this type of protest is highly ineffective in country where you can effectively shut down a city with coercive fear mongering.

But hey, people are willing to let it become like this so it will only continue. I'll sit back and watch the State™ wash itself in its own flames :D

Your use of TM™ indicates to me that you are arrogant and cynical. You personally can't make the world better (see: dictator) and that really hurts an ego.

You would rather see yourself as a helpless pesant being oppressed than admit you're closer in status to the bourgeoisie.

You sound like my old friend Steve. So let me say this: don't do anything stupid, you will get caught. I think he's out of prision now but I don't talk to him anymore.

Dang, I guess everything is out in the open now!

I was really hoping that I could personally make the world a better place by engaging in discussion on HN that would ultimately go on to change the world, and ultimately gain some much needed ego points I could cash in for that Tesla™!

Thank you almighty oracle, you have brought me salvation! :D

P.S. Steve is probably better off without you in his life :P

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